| ▲ | Waterluvian 2 hours ago |
| I replaced that garbage with Insomnia years back. I’m just waiting until I hear that Insomnia is also a problem and where to go next. |
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| ▲ | mzajc 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Insomnia 8.0 and above requires an account on their servers to use. The stated reason was that this makes it easier to advertise to you. No thanks. Older versions are fine, though. https://github.com/Kong/insomnia/discussions/6590 |
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| ▲ | reddalo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Insomnia _has_ a problem, since it forces you to create a cloud account with them. Bruno [1] is the current better alternative to Insomnia. [1] https://www.usebruno.com/ |
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| ▲ | Keyframe an hour ago | parent [-] | | My path was: Postman -> Turns into shit -> Insomnia -> Turns into shit -> Bruno.. let's hope Bruno doesn't turn into shit. | | |
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| ▲ | amflare 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've been using Insomnia whenever I can since before Covid. Its been nice, but ever since they started pushing accounts so aggressively, I've switched to Yaak to get back to that feel of a simple API client that prompted me to switch to Insomia in the first place. 100% recommend. https://yaak.app/ |
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| ▲ | Waterluvian an hour ago | parent [-] | | That looks appealing but the existence of a Pricing page tells me it's just a matter of time. I have a sense that a dumb Web API testing UI application is really not that hard to get AI to implement. These apps all look about the same for a reason. So maybe there will be a prevailing FOSS option that isn't trying to monetize. | | |
| ▲ | gschier an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yaak creator here! The commercial-use license is my best attempt at aligning incentives between me and the user, while still funding the project's future. FYI the license terms only apply to the prebuilt binaries. You can build and run from source for any use (including commercial), for free. Happy to answer any questions as well. | | |
| ▲ | Waterluvian an hour ago | parent [-] | | Hey! I respect your desire to monetize. And I appreciate that you're trying to make it work through monetizing the commercial side. I think that's a sensible approach. I'm for the most part just jaded about it all because I've seen Postman and Insomnia slowly boil the frog with increased pushiness towards logins and monetization. If a project is trying to make money at all, I feel it will inevitably grapple with the same issues. Especially for the kind of product where we can have five different options for in the comments section already. But I hope you do succeed in maintaining an honourable revenue stream. | | |
| ▲ | runako an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > If a project is trying to make money at all long-time engineer here, begging others to reconsider this attitude. Engineering work has value, engineers deserve to be paid for their time, and the community will have better software if engineers are able to get paid for their time. Is there another profession where charging a fair price for a product is looked on with derision the way it is with software? | | |
| ▲ | Waterluvian 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Oh don't get me wrong. I have gotten my company to pay for a lot of good FOSS and services, especially from teams of 1. There just has to be honest value-add potential. |
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| ▲ | gschier an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yep! Fun fact, I made Insomnia too, and started over with Yaak after I sold it and watched it go down the same path. Yaak was my attempt at making sure it doesn't happen again. |
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| ▲ | georgel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Just installed it, it's funny their landing page is littered with every AI buzzword too. But I am going to give Insomnia a try, I've heard people talk about it and a few others on HN over the years. I just need a glorified cURL GUI at the end of the day. |
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| ▲ | debo_ 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I use Bruno. I forget what Insomnia did that irritated me, but Bruno is the closest I've found to a dumb client that doesn't pester me for an account. | |
| ▲ | jmuguy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah it got bought by Kong a while back, and they're definitely not a great company, but the application itself still seems pretty OK. I really like that you can paste a curl in to setup a new request. This is definitely the type of app that some AI agent could cobble together pretty quickly, so I don't know why Postman etc thinks they have enough of a moat to keep enshittifying their product. |
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