Their search engine is now integrated with Ai. So either google would need to block the search engine or the school if they don't want Ai. Take your pick.

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ceejayoz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's the same argument Microsoft made with Internet Explorer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....

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silverFork 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of these schools use tablets though. The kids probably use their phones so more likely to be google. Higher grades though use laptops I think so more likely Microsoft then. So far internet explorer is not integrated with Ai but microsoft copilot though is 100% ai and can be used for search.

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ceejayoz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not talking about Copilot, I'm talking about IE6 back in the 90s, where Microsoft took the "oh woe is us it'll be so hard to undo the deep unnecessary integration we built for this very purpose" tactic.

	▲	pmontra an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		That happened before some of the readers of this thread were born. A summary for those people, from the fog of distant memories: MS had an Internet Explorer that was not integrated in Windows, it was like any other browser. Then they decided to build it inside Windows. I remember that the Windows desktop got web views like widgets (web view as a name probably did not exist yet) and they called it Active Desktop. I think that it as COM/OLE objects too and the web view was probably one of them. File Explorer itself got an Internet Explorer like skin, probably with single click to navigate directories and open files, as if they were links. Then they claimed that it was impossible to disentangle IE from Windows. That eventually paved the way to the ruling against MS. When I hear a giant company say that modifying some of its software is impossible I always think about that IE and laugh.
	▲	silverFork an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I agree with that view point.. yup
	▲	frankharv an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Billy Gates swore on a bible that Internet Explorer could not be removed and lied his ass off. Profited very handsomely from his lies.

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joquarky 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

And what was the end result there?

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ceejayoz 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Microsoft was successfully forced to unbundle IE?

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brainwad 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

Not really? In the US it kept being bundled by default, they just made it possible to disable the front end; the MSHTML rendering engine was unremovable.

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ceejayoz 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

It doesn't even exist any more, and they were required to open up APIs to third-party browser makers. We'd be worse off without the settlement.

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brainwad 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

They just renamed it to Edge when they rebooted the UI. It's still a bundled browser, indeed the bundling is more aggressive than ever.

	▲	ceejayoz 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Edge is Chromium. Their competitor's engine.

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Polizeiposaune an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Their search engine will omit "AI" summaries if you add &udm=14 to the query URL.

I added a custom search engine entry to firefox that does this, made it the default, and haven't seen an AI summary from Google since I did that.

	▲	brainwad 26 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That filter does much more, it removes all the "first party" results, AI or otherwise. You are better off with adding "-ai" to the query.

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brlewis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Obviously they have at least a back-end search service that isn't tangled up with an LLM. When Gemini says "Searching the web..." it isn't chatbots all the way down. Google just needs to make a human UI for the same search Gemini uses.

	▲	silverFork 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It depends if you ask it a question or simply specify an object I think.

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lokar an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not integrated, they are lying