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▲ elanning 3 hours ago

> I think Astra was trained on neural weights data as an attempt by OpenAI to get to recursive self improvement.

This might be the case, a few weeks ago, I wanted to compare a small neural network trained with AdamW vs a handcrafted set of weights on a random task. Astra was able to handcraft a set of weights that perfectly fit the small neural network to the task. AdamW was unable to tune the weights to get the same result.

I believe we've known humans can handcraft weights much more efficiently than standard gradient descent methods, we just don't have enough memory or time to scale ourselves, so it makes sense to train a neural network to do it on our behalf. I am excited to see how far we can push this method.

Mentioned chat: https://chatgpt.com/share/6ae8f024-34ec-83e8-9572-1300f52c80...

▲vessenes an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It’s a good reminder of one of the most unique features of alphago - it was like a seven layer or so neural net that could predict out a hundred moves. I’m not sure we took this kind of compression super seriously or at least I would say perhaps it remains under explored. You could think of what you did as sort of the same thing as skipping the Monte Carlo search phase for a go engine — a process compression.

▲space_fountain 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Research on using LLMs and diffusion models to directly predict weights have been going on for a bit now for example https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.18153