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▲ burkaman 5 hours ago

Can anyone knowledgeable interpret what was actually done here? It doesn't sound like "performed brain surgery" is accurate.

> Watching our surgeon do the craniotomy, which the agent is not allowed to do yet for safety reasons

I think the only action it took was sending commands to lower a needle to a certain location, inject, and then remove it. But then it sounds like it couldn't actually choose a valid location and this guy had to manually override it? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, talking about this post: https://x.com/OcanaSantero/status/2115442968874139867 (https://xxcancel.com/OcanaSantero/status/2115442968874139867).

I know there is always endless goalpost-moving in these kind of discussions but I really do think there's an important difference between "performed brain surgery" and "observed brain surgery and ran inject(3.9, 4, 4.3) at one point". And there's also no discussion here of whether this decision made any medical sense and what impact it had on the mouse besides not killing it.

▲ricardobeat 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

From my reading of it, the override moment was because they made a coding error which cause manual adjustment to de-sync the arm position, the agent correctly refused to continue when it noticed that.

It does seem like there is minimal "surgery" involved but it's not much of a stretch. If a surgeon took the same steps but someone else opened the skull, it would still be considered 'brain surgery', I think.

▲suddenlybananas 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Who made the coding error?

▲UncleOxidant 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The mouse.

▲pengaru 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"You own the work"

▲exe34 an hour ago | parent [-]

No the company owns the IP. You own the blame.

▲soco 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't know what harnesses they run but when I daily tell Claude or others to do X and they indeed do parts of X and then also Y and break A on the way... I'm so tired of asking "but, really?" that I'm not even bothering anymore. The AI folks live in a different world than I live, and whether it's a real world or only in their minds (or only in their articles) I definitely cannot tell anymore. I simply gave up.

▲Forgeties79 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Some variation of “you’re just using it wrong” is usually the refrain I hear when I talk about things LLM’s are bad at. Anything is possible if you divine the right words to input and fix your harness and set pick the perfect model and…

▲x3haloed 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeesh. Claude still does that? I haven't had that problem since GPT 5.

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▲suddenlybananas 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Are you being sarcastic? I genuinely cannot tell.