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▲ satvikpendem 17 hours ago

Everyone seems to wrap up their criticisms on AI and labor saving technology in general as though it's a personal affront when in reality, as it's always been, it's an economic problem. Once we have UBI or something similar, you will see most people's opinions on AI doing math and art, for example, start to change to one of cooperation, not adversarial.

▲za_creature 13 hours ago | parent [-]

You can flip this backwards:

Everyone seems to wrap up their praise of AI by claiming that it will bring an era of abundance with UBI. Once we don't have UBI because why the fuck would we, you'll see most people's opinions of AI start to change from one of cooperation to adversarial.

The steam engine produced raw power but that still needed to be controlled and directed for a multitude of purposes, which required putting dirt farmers through education to turn them into factory workers. If machines now do both the thinking and the hard lifting, why exactly would their owners need us for? From where they're standing, they're now looking at a pragmatic solution to global warming: just reduce the "energy requirements" of the population.

▲satvikpendem 11 hours ago | parent [-]

We will have UBI, one way or another, by force if necessary. The people today talking about AI would've been leading revolutions as they did in the 20th century once their lives were automated away.

▲za_creature 10 hours ago | parent [-]

The 20th century did not even have machine guns at first and the nobles still had a need of a capable workforce back then.

Between those, biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, missiles and drones and the fact that using them against the civilian population has no impact on the economy, I think you may need to rethink your use of force.

Or do you actually think that they're building humanoid robots to automate blue collar work? More like automate the boys in blue, with unwavering loyalty.

▲satvikpendem 8 hours ago | parent [-]

There is no other choice but force, however. That's how all revolutions go.

▲za_creature 8 hours ago | parent [-]

That's also how all genocides go. And right now there is a choice, we're not there _yet_.