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▲ kazinator 4 hours ago

> disconnect the wireless radio from the main board

Can you explain why you can't just not give the TV your Wi-Fi password?

Or are we worried about the case when the TV did have Wi-Fi (due to it being mandatory for some initial setup, say), but we don't trust that "Forget Network" and "Wi-Fi off" are actually honored?

Suppose the device surreptitiously reconnects to Wi-Fi in spite of being told to forget it. You may be able to block it in your router and failing that, change the access point password.

No?

▲hedora 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Our Samsung fridge will mesh network with any Samsung TV specifically to exfiltrate marketing info, at least according to the manual. (The fridge even has marketing surveillance cameras in it).

I assume at some point, appliance manufacturers will start "partnering" with things that actually need WiFi for exfiltration purposes. Phones would be a good place to start.

That way, we'd need to either Faraday cage our friends' phones, not invite them over, or send marketing pervs video feed of our moldy pickles.

▲gumby 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Xfinity runs an open WiFi for its customers. If you instead their gateway and don’t change anything (which is 99% of users) any Xfinity customer can get online. Several of my neighbors have them, and you can’t walk around in my commercial district without seeing the “Xfinity WiFi” SSID. It would be smart for TV mfrs to do a deal with Xfinity and their equivalents world wide in order to sell viewer data to advertisers and receive “fresh” ads, even if the TVs are excluded from the residential network.

▲crazybLanKeT an hour ago | parent | next [-]

This is actually so very doable in US, cutting deal with those like XFinity.

But if the TV manufacturer is smart in their spying game, they could also be probing for any public SSIDs to connect to when no local internet access is setup.

▲solyin an hour ago | parent [-]

Why make it so complicated? Just include an IoT cell modem with an esim.

▲giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So your TV just connects to random wifi networks? That sounds a bit insane.

▲zargon an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That example isn't a random wifi network, it's the Xfinity network.

But also, you think tv manufacturers are sane? They have proven that they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, in my opinion.

▲RajT88 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It doesn't sound insane, actually. Keeping in mind, Windows XP did exactly that for a while until everyone realized, "hey, that's a security issue". I would swear MacOS too, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

▲Tyr42 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It might connect to a neighbor's WiFi if it has no password.

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▲realityfactchex 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To prevent RF transmission.

▲plagiarist 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We're worried about it connecting to a neighbor's unsecured network or some sort of unpublished mesh capability for exfiltrating your data and downloading ads.

▲giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Setup an unprotected network that is isolated and you fully control, see if it connects at all.