I think Picard was a good example of positive masculinity. Strong and not a wimp without being overbearing or a bully.

He was also a good example for us budding nerds. His intellectualism was not arrogant or apologetic - so it showed us authenticity and self-respect. His intellectualism also did not give him license to dismiss effective communication, leadership, compassion, or humility. So he showed us how to avoid our worst tendencies.

	▲	gadders 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, but I think he also showed that being a nerd didn't necessarily mean being weak. He could fight and he was physically brave.

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madrox a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The relationship between masculinity and power is interesting to me. Arguably much of his strength came from his position, and his position came from, as Tapestry argues, taking big risks.

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dyauspitr a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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foltik 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's quite a creative definition of positive.

So a man “illogically and hysterically” punching a wall because he had a bad day is positive because it's biological?

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thin_carapace a day ago | parent | prev [-]

in that case what is the central idea being pointed at by the misnomer 'toxic masculinity' ? interesting to consider that prevailing framing as being an inherent critique of masculinity as a whole. personally I dislike the phrase 'toxic positivity' for similar reasons, it's like saying that a turd may be made palatable.

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dyauspitr a day ago | parent [-]

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	▲	thin_carapace a day ago \| parent [-]
		did u have a way to frame that idea objectively without referring to feminism ? coz feminism embodies a similar concept to the one we apply toxic masculinity to. where feminism in contemporary practice seems to have little in common with supporting women