People need to see their lives improve materially within a reasonable period of time before they will trust politics again I would wager. I don't think people aren't voting due to apathy, they aren't voting because they don't trust the system.

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kmeisthax a day ago | parent | next [-]

You're describing Russia, not America. In America voter turnout is at record highs, people are protesting loud and visibly, and "Flock camera" is a cultural byword for oppressive dragnet surveillance.

I don't think people have connected the dots between Flock and Ring yet, but it's only a matter of time.

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imthatsteve a day ago | parent [-]

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_DeadFred_ a day ago | parent [-]

Makes a good talking point. But in reality land, when a Conservative who believed the hype actually tried to do it, they caught a charge.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c52e9vnege7eo

	▲	vargr616 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		from the article, it seems they only got charged bc they filmed the act and published it? so it wasn't any hype and they could actually easily vote illegaly?

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dexterdog a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't that a part of apathy?

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Avicebron a day ago | parent [-]

Depends on how you frame it I suppose. If your experience is that every candidate in the last 20+ years has been a different flavor of awful for the average jane you could say it's zen-like acceptance.

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_DeadFred_ a day ago | parent [-]

And the person making my coffee picked their nose three minutes before hand, my food is covered in various feces picked up during transportation, etc, etc. Life is accepting that reality is messy without giving up food, treats, or democracy.

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melbournesky 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ahh yes, we just accept the rich get richer. They have all the money and therefore are gods chosen people. How about we cook them in ovens :) see how long they last claiming their system is the best. Maybe we could brand a few with usery across their foreheads.

	▲	blooalien 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> They have all the money and therefore are gods chosen people. If you listen to their cult members, they're just gods themselves.

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antonvs a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is that they are the system. If they sit back and expect someone else to fix it for them, they get what they deserve.

	▲	imthatsteve a day ago \| parent [-]
		Lol the real problem is the duopoly. Ah this republican sucks i have to vote democrat ah this democrat wants to allow sexually deviant teachers to castrate my children and then call cps if i object so ig i have to vote republican. Ah this republican wants to make everything illegal to fill their private prisons for more slave labor. Ig ill vote democrat. When you have two choices and the rich decide what those choices are they will always ensure than half the population hates one of the choices and the other half hate the other one and then you vote based on which candidate you hate the least which means the rich always get what they want and you always get screwed. If you ever want anything to change then you need to treat both parties like the parasitic treasonous scum that they are and make it clear to all americans that anyone who puts a party before their nation is a traitor. Then you vote for actual people, not a party, not whoever your favorite celebrity was paid to endorse. IF YOU WANT TO VOTE, FIRST YOU LEARN THE CANDIDATES, THEN YOU LEARN THE POLICIES THEY PROPOSE, THEN YOU CHALLENGE THOSE POLICIES WITH THE BEST STEELMAN YOU CAN FIND. only then should you even consider voting. But thats way too much responsibility for americans. They prefer to be given a binary choice, heads or tails their both the same except one fucks you left the other fucks you right, unless you happen to belong to the class of people that own the politicians in which case you dont actually care which way the election goes because you paid both sides so you win no matter what.