| ▲ | UltraSane 4 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||
I don't think neural networks have the same ability of self deception as humans do. A huge reason human world models vary so much is due to them being tied to tribal membership. A huge fraction of all people will not come to a rational worldview derived from accurate data but will start with their tribe's worldview and filter data to match. I personally have never modified my worldview for social reasons and it is surprisingly isolating. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | vmendi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
This. I believe most people don't act as if objective reality matters, hence their worldview can be arbitrarily aligned to the demands of their social context. Suppose these two premises are true: 1. Objective reality exists. 2. There's a model and corpus of data that converges to approximate reality better than any other model. Now, suppose we train different models with data sources restricted to different tribes/ ideologies/worldviews. Can we discover how their internal representations differ from each other, and from objective reality? What would we do with that knowledge? | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | throw8373930 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> have the same ability of self deception as humans do There is universal objective truth, and different opinions or world views are just "tribal membership". If onlymother tribes understood that! | |||||||||||||||||
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