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▲ californical 2 hours ago

Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash. I can’t believe how far I’ve gone with only spending like $0.70 so far on credits

▲hokkos an hour ago | parent | next [-]

When looking at the performance / price graph of artificial analysis, we can see that deepseek doesn't seem to have a better profile, just notably worse and slightly cheaper models, so in the future a chatgpt user will be better serve with switching to Luna or Terra that have better profile than deepseek.

▲alt-machine-ref 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Deepseek is truly a dumdum model if you move your full work into it.

For small evaluation ds is impressive.

▲EbNar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can use DS and others through my Kagi sub. The thing about ChatGPT was the integrated environment/memory and the ability to create artifacts, which make it very useful for my job (teaching /researching). I don't use llms for coding, nor for agentic stuff.

▲znpy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash.

I'm pleasantly surprised by grok models.

We use cursor at work and i'm at the $20/month plan.

I used to mostly use Gpt, composer and occasionally opus. But this month i maxed these models quota and I've been working with Grok 4.7 essentially non stop for the last two weeks.

Grok is fairly verbose and somewhat slower but in the end it does get the job done. I've done a surprising amount of work (planning, implementing, tool usage, analysis) on the base plan.

▲EbNar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Giving money to Musk, tho... I'm not saying anybody shouldn't... I'm saying I'm not going to.

▲pcf 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

But you still wanted to say something, didn't you?

Well, if so I'll say something too – I would feel better giving money to a company led by a man who has stated repeatedly why he wants "maximum truth-seeking AI".

Ironically enough I'm currently on a ChatGPT Pro 200 package because OpenAI has been my platform for all my serious (non-coder-guided) coding work so far.

But with this new change I might actually finally jump ship. And maybe it would be to SpaceXAI and their Grok Ultra package. That's still $200/month for me, but I would get 50x more usage compared to plus, compared to "just" 20x with ChatGPT Pro 200. It looks tempting.

Musk's main concept summarised by Gemini: "Truth as Safety: Musk argues that the most important aspect of AI safety is ensuring the system is maximally curious and honest, even if that truth is unpopular.

Raising vs. Programming: He compares developing superintelligence to raising a child rather than strictly coding it, warning that forcing an AI to hold contradictory or untruthful principles will break its logic and make it 'insane'."

▲newdee 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why say anything then?

▲znpy 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i don't really care, frankly.

▲decremental an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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