| ▲ | scoobertjtwiffl 2 hours ago |
| And what pray tell do you think modern academia is about?
I have trouble understanding why so many Hacker Newsies have such disdain for a class of people whose main objective in life is to discover and share knowledge, and have sacrificed tremendous amounts of their time, and potential money, to do so. |
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| ▲ | cperciva 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| By revealed preference, modern academia is about churning incremental papers in order to obtain tenure and research grants. |
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| ▲ | halJordan 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | While i don't disagree that there's a problem with publishing for the sake of publishing, we really do need the incremental papers. GPS (the evergreen science example) is the result of incremental papers starting in the 40s with grants for atomic clocks | |
| ▲ | scoobertjtwiffl 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, those greedy guys just want to (1) keep their (underpaid) jobs and (2) have a bit more money to increase pay for their (underpaid) students. :)
As with software engineers, and every other job, some academics are crappy and some are amazing. Let's not paint everybody with the same brush.
As for incremental, well, the AI you're all so fond of was incremental academic research for a couple decades before it was this sudden world changing thing. |
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| ▲ | appreciatorBus 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| There are whole disciplines whose telos is now activism rather than knowledge production. https://cdn.vanderbilt.edu/vu-wpfsx/wp-content/uploads/sites... |
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| ▲ | halJordan 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | You linked a pdf but I'm not going to scroll 30 pages on a phone to figure out your cryptic statement | |
| ▲ | scoobertjtwiffl 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There are whole companies whose only goal is to make money for shareholders! Most people on HN work for them! | | |
| ▲ | appreciatorBus 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes. People working hard on problems that other people are willing to freely compensate them for is a good thing. Activism disguised as research is a bad thing. | |
| ▲ | expedition32 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | And those companies make money from government sponsored R&D. and educational pipelines. |
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