There are so many cool harnesses I could use if I didn't have an outrageously subsidized Claude subscription

Rabbit504030201 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Try them anyway. Tell your employer about all the principles of freedoms that free, self hosted AI enable. It does not have to dwarf other costs.

Do not worry about vendor lock-in. Standing against big corporations was never easier in this century.

Do it. You know you can.

	▲	whoanoway an hour ago \| parent [-]
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KetoManx64 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just built my own tools and then just drive claude with 'claude -p' through them. Works great for controlling claude from my own android app.

	▲	rendaw 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, write your own custom harness harness. This is what I'm doing too, and it's so much better. No more blocking copy/paste, no more stuck title bars, it actually sends notifications only when I need to give it input, it feels snappy, it doesn't destroy the scrollback buffer, messages are timestamped, I can copy my prompt out without spaces being added, it automatically bumps the agent to check when background processes run too long, and I added a sandbox that actually provides a modicum of security.

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thekuanysh 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

so what's the point? you can use claude sub.

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mapontosevenths 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Claude doesn't allow third party harnesses unless you pay the full API price. Attempting to avoid that by pretending to be Claude code gets your account banned. Google is the same and will ban your entire Google account.

AFAIK - Of the big three only OpenAI explicitly allows third party harnesses without paying exorbitant API rates. It's one of the primary reasons I still use them.

To avoid these problems some folks use tools like herdr which operate like tmux or via the SDK to drive the official harness, rather than speaking directly to the API routes.

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brandonhorst 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This was true but no longer is

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NorthSouthNorth 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They apparently rolled this decision back.

	▲	rbehrends an hour ago \| parent [-]
		What they rolled back was charging claude -p "..." and use of Claude Code as an ACP agent at API rates. But the use of OAuth2 authentication with their subscription plans still feels at least risky: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/legal-and-compliance#authent... (granted, the wording is anything but clear). Whether and under what circumstances they actually enforce this these days, I do not know. Regardless, if your preferred harness does not support that authentication flow (which most don't), then it doesn't really help you even if you could. For what it's worth, I do not consider the Claude Code ACP adapter an adequate solution.