| ▲ | prmph a day ago |
| Just because they are academics and experts in some scientific or technical field does not mean they are immune to corruption and abuse of power. Arguably they are just as vulnerable to these things. |
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| ▲ | b3lvedere a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| I hope so so much that the current level of corruption will get down. They have been given an immense task. I wish them all the best. The world will be watching. |
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| ▲ | IslandRebel a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They are more vulnerable because they are not used to dealing with these types of people. |
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| ▲ | tester756 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Academic environment has plenty of those. | | |
| ▲ | hunterpayne a day ago | parent [-] | | Serbia has been basically ruled by gangsters for the last several decades. So no, I don't think the academic environment has people like who the Serbian government has to deal with. |
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| ▲ | watwut a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | More vulnerable then Vucic, Vance, Trump, Orban, Bolsnaro, Paxton, ... | | |
| ▲ | IslandRebel a day ago | parent [-] | | I've seen posts of yours on other threads, and all I have to say to you is that you keep on pretending that only the politicians you don't like are the corrupt ones; this is very naive. | | |
| ▲ | eschaton a day ago | parent | next [-] | | It is equally naïve to pretend all politicians of all alignments are equally corrupt. | | |
| ▲ | IslandRebel a day ago | parent [-] | | I never said they were equally corrupt. What I notice quite often, especially from people that are the most partisan, is that they will add things you never said because they think they are arguing with an imaginary person constructed in their head. I never mentioned any particular politicians and was making a general observation that if you haven't had to deal with unsavoury characters, dishonest actors and quasi-crooks, you will lack the experience of how to deal with them. These people exist in all walks of life. The person I was replying to was playing team sports, which I find tiresome, because every post about everything has to become about Trump or whoever the current villain of the week is. It is quite frankly moronic. | | |
| ▲ | techcode a day ago | parent | next [-] | | There are a lot of assumptions in that general observation, right? Not just that you need experience in order to deal with these unsavoury/dishonest/crook characters. But that you even need to deal/compromise with them at all, that doing so would lead to a better outcome ...etc. And also not to mix up the other meaning of "dealing with". The biggest thing that the Student movement rallied around was dealing with previous government and various public and private sector corruption that it instigated/facilitated - in the bringing them to justice/rule of law sense. | | |
| ▲ | IslandRebel 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | Part of dealing with someone might be just making sure that you associate with them.
Also dealing with criminals often means imprisoning them or killing them (depending on how dangerous they are). | | |
| ▲ | techcode 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | The politicians, be it President, Prime or other Ministers, or just members of the parlament - usually don't directly put criminals behind bars. That said back in 2003, so ~2 years after the previous student protests in Serbia that brought down Milošević - Serbian Prime Minister was assassinated. Officially the assassination was done by criminal gang that had ties with previous government - that just so happened to also be (former) members of the special antiterorist (military) police. And it is said that he was assassinated because he was doing things (setup special investigation/prosecution) to fight organized crime. While some of the current students might not know about all that. Older people, the ones that are now discussed/proposed as ministers and such - definitely know about. | | |
| ▲ | IslandRebel 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > The politicians, be it President, Prime or other Ministers, or just members of the parlament - usually don't directly put criminals behind bars. Obviously. I would have thought that it would be obvious that it is delegated to the various security services. > Officially the assassination was done by criminal gang that had ties with previous government - that just so happened to also be (former) members of the special antiterorist (military) police. Well, bringing the rule of law didn't work out for him, did it? He should have made sure these people were tracked down ASAP and killed. To have law and order, you need to have order first. |
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| ▲ | watwut a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | You JUST claimed they are more vulnerable to corruption. By the beginning of the thread. The whole thread started with you pointing at specific group and claiming they are nore vulnerable to corruption. |
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| ▲ | watwut a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They are waaaay more corrupt. They also have morality completely at odds to mine. | | |
| ▲ | IslandRebel 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | > They are waaaay more corrupt. People on the other side of the aisle say the same thing. I think they are all scumbags. I see grifting, corruption and all sorts of shenanigans on both sides. > They also have morality completely at odds to mine. Hyper-partisan people like yourself will hand waive any wrongdoings because you happen to say things you like. All you are doing is treating politics as a team sport. I have no interest in it. |
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| ▲ | RetardedBastard a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ok King of sophistication. Mr Worldly himself. Everyone is naive in your presence oh lord |
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| ▲ | BoingBoomTschak a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today." |
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