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▲ AnthonyMouse 2 hours ago

> A web browser isn't a bot as long as it's controlled by a human but it becomes one once it's automated.

That doesn't mean anything. All of the code in a browser is "automation" -- normal users aren't hand-crafting the hundreds of HTTP requests the browser makes to render a single web page. Meanwhile there is a human somewhere telling the scrapers what to scrape.

> You are entitled to your own emails, posts, etc

Is that somewhere in the proposed text?

> but you are not entitled to crawl the internet for your own purposes without stating what they are and allowing websites an opt out.

"Stating what they are" buys you nothing when you have no way of verifying it, and you're still not providing any way to distinguish this from investigative journalism or e.g. a new competing search engine.

▲card_zero an hour ago | parent [-]

Using a computer to do "by hand" is a vague concept, yes, but laws routinely embrace vague concepts. You used it yourself! "Hand-crafting", you said. It could be pinned down more closely to something like a single action that happens quite soon after you press a button or ... and further wrangling could ensue because it's never going to have all the vagueness removed. It's probably relative to current norms of computer use and what we do or don't automate casually (and thus describe as "by hand").

▲AnthonyMouse 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

> It could be pinned down more closely to something like a single action that happens quite soon after you press a button

So leaving your webmail open is banned because it will still be checking for new messages three months after you opened the tab without any further human interaction. Likewise RSS readers or really any client which is intended to fetch new posts/messages when they appear.

> It's probably relative to current norms of computer use and what we do or don't automate casually (and thus describe as "by hand").

Which is kind of exactly the problem. A new law would presumably still be on the books in ten or twenty years. Do we expect user agents by then to do only the things they do now, or will they get more capable? Banning them from becoming more capable is the problem.