| ▲ | meekins 8 hours ago |
| When it comes to the amount of cross-tenant leaks Azure looks to be way ahead the competition. Makes me wonder why enterprises still flock there. |
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| ▲ | traceroute66 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Makes me wonder why enterprises still flock there Well, when you're already paying Microsoft $/user/month for Intune, Teams&co. you might as well use Azure too. Only one vendor relationship to manage, and I suspect you probably have to spend far less money than you do with AWS to get some personal attention. |
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| ▲ | waz0wski 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > one vendor relationship to manage Anyone that's had to deal with Microsoft will tell you this means nothing If you can even get attention from someone, you'll be bounced between teams and people who barely know the products they are "supporting" Don't get me started on the Azure and O365 management portals The only worse support experience I've had was with Oracle where it could take days just to get the boilerplate "send us your logs" response on a Sev1 issue, despite the logs already being provided in the initial ticket In both cases, this is while at F100 companies with millions of dollars of licensed software and premium support contracts | | |
| ▲ | marcosdumay 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Managing a vendor relationship is the act of distributing license usage through your people, reviewing contracts, having somebody that knows when and where you have to send money so that the software keeps working, and making sure you are not doing something against the contract. With Microsoft that takes several people working full time. Corporations tend to not want more of those relationships to manage. | |
| ▲ | rsalus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm convinced all engineers in the O365 org are call center techs in disguise | |
| ▲ | esikich 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What do you mean "even get attention from someone"? Enterprise contracts have support included. You can get an engineer on the phone within 24 hours. As long as you are competent enough to answer their questions, their support has been fairly good in my experience. | |
| ▲ | traceroute66 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Anyone that's had to deal with Microsoft will tell you this means nothing... In relation to everything you said in your post, let's just say "trust me, I know". But you missed the point I was making. The GP said "Makes me wonder why enterprises still flock there". And anyone who's had to deal with enterprise procurement knows if you've got a vendor on the list then its easier to deal with that one than push for multiple. And then there's the whole budgeting thing. If management can see you're already buying every single employee in the org a Teams license, then getting extra budget for some Azure toys will probably be an easier sell then "yeah, I know we're paying Microsoft a lot of money, but can we have some AWS too". Since in their eyes Azure and Teams licenses is the same thing, "money for Microsoft". Sadly the tech desk experience in enterprises tends to fall low down the list, if it is considered at all. Sure, in theory, if you've got a good CTO to fight your corner then YMMV, but not everyone does. |
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| ▲ | jeffrallen 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Must be convenient to get all your security bugs from one vendor... |
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| ▲ | xmcp123 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same reason as it was in 2002. “No one ever got fired for buying Microsoft.” |
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| ▲ | Betelbuddy 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Lets get our Cloud...from the same guys who have been unable to provide a freeze screen feature in Teams for 10 years..should be a firing offense... | | | |
| ▲ | ok123456 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In 2026, it's also: "They have FedRAMP, and some "cyber" person told me we need GCC-High to pass an audit." | | |
| ▲ | jon128 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Federal Cyber Experts Thought Microsoft’s Cloud Was “a Pile of Shit.” They Approved It Anyway.
https://www.propublica.org/article/microsoft-cloud-fedramp-cybersecurity-government
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| ▲ | sandeepkd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It pretty much applies to everything, going along the tide is always easier | |
| ▲ | winrid 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Good time to start. |
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| ▲ | giancarlostoro an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I do .NET full time, every shop I've worked at was on Azure. It makes the most sense for .NET developers, but I'd personally prefer to just rent dedicated servers at this point. |
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| ▲ | magicalhippo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| For us a big part is that they have data centers in our country. It makes for improved latency and also makes a lot of our customers sleep better (justifiably so or not). Amazon doesn't and regardless nobody feels comfortable using Google, who knows when they'll discontinue a product we would rely on. So not a lot left to choose from. |
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| ▲ | toomuchtodo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Their sales folks are very good with C level folks, from the meetings I've sat in on. They will give you substantial credits and hands on support to build for you, depending on vertical and predicted future spend, especially if you're already at another cloud provider they're trying to pull you from. |
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| ▲ | jon128 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Feels. AKA stupidity, ultimately. |
