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▲ BLKNSLVR a day ago

I was thinking the same thing, the outcome they're measuring is unrelated to the reason for the instituted change.

Study: Schoolwide phone bans show no significant impact on road death toll.

▲marcus_holmes a day ago | parent [-]

I think the point is all the "kids are getting damaged by phone use" talking points. It's using the school bans as a useful study; we can see what happens to kids if they're not allowed to use phones here.

iirc a similar study on the Aussie age ban is finding similar results; basically no difference. Some kids benefit, others suffer.

Agree that a study on grades would be useful too

▲PaulDavisThe1st a day ago | parent | next [-]

Isn't it the inverse? i.e we think it is bad for students to have phones in schools, but it might be a problem for the students if we ban them, so let's do the test ... yep, no problem for the students, so let's definitely ban them for educational reasons?

▲marcus_holmes a day ago | parent [-]

yeah, that makes sense. Be interesting to see how that study goes.

And ofc AI is busy messing all of this up.

▲chneu a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why would anyone really benefit from just a few hours off their phones?

That's like saying not eating for a few hours makes up for eating 4000 calories at dinner.

▲bmacho a day ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe there is a difference in phone addiction management if they are allowed to use it every 45 minutes and if they are forced to be abstinent for 7 hours straight.

I personally would've guessed many immediate positive effects just from a phone ban in school, TFA claims they have a measurement against that.

▲marcus_holmes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

maybe it's more like banning smoking - stopping a smoker for 8 hours a day would definitely positively impact their health, even if they find it incredibly annoying.

▲margalabargala a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It could encourage face to face socialization during those hours, which could improve mental health.

▲JuniperMesos a day ago | parent [-]

Or it could make it worse, depending a lot on highly-specific details of the school and the student's personality. A lot of people really hated the social environment of the schools they were forced to attend as children, and carry the scars into adulthood. On the other hand, a lot of other people liked doing things with their friends at school and have fond memories of it.

▲jethro_tell a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Wat? Why would there be a difference? It only takes an hour a day or less of social media with an algorithm designed to make you anxious to really affect your mental health, how would limiting available social media time to 8 hours help?

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