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▲ cellsstudio a day ago

Side question: how grim is the the Road? I've been meaning to pick it up because I love No Country but I've heard that the Road is just bleaker than bleak.

▲eks-reigh a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's a very grim book, but it's also fundamentally about the goodness of people. The setting and the plot are bleak, but its outlook is, in a way, hopeful.

At least that's my takeaway. If someone else found it purely depressing I would understand, but I feel differently.

▲njovin 10 hours ago | parent [-]

You nailed it. I have a full sleeve tattoo with elements nodding to The Road. For me “carrying the flame” is the lasting message of the book and it’s one of hope and courage.

▲f30e3dfed1c9 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> how grim is the the Road?

Not all that grim, at least compared to some of his others. Grimmer than No Country for Old Men, less so than Blood Meridian or Outer Dark. There is at least one very grim scene, though, and maybe some others I'm not thinking of at the moment. Been a pretty long time since I read it.

Grimness aside, I'd rank it simpler, at the level of reading difficulty, than some of his others.

It's a good book but personally, I don't think it's among his best.

▲subscribed 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Grim. If you have a kid it might be too much. I couldn't finish it; too much.

(an I'm completely unfazed by anything else. I loved Blood Meridian for example. The Road just takes me out)

▲brudgers a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I read it when it came out in a day or two.

Then I tried to read it again a few years later but my boy was about that age and I could not put myself through what reading it was taking out of me.

▲marttt a day ago | parent [-]

Our son was about 3yo when I read it, and I couldn't put it down. To me, it is a story of the father standing by his son no matter what. A really immersive reading experience. A father-son exchange that touched me:

  What is it?
  Nothing. I had a bad dream. 
  What did you dream about?
  Nothing.
  Are you okay?
  No.
  He put his arms around him and held him. It's okay, he said.
  I was crying. But you didnt wake up.
  I'm sorry. I was just so tired.
  I meant in the dream.
I do think McCarthy's own family life felt, well, "controversial" in the light of all this. But, at least he didn't seem to justify himself about it. IIRC, on not paying child support after divorce, he has said "with what?" in one of his rare interviews.

I'm not a native English speaker, and I've had writerly ambitions myself, and his style feels like magic to me (hey, an accidental cormac-y polysyndeton here!). But... yeah. Thinking about the way many poets "manage" to put art before family life (obviously, they can't help it) is a good reflection of me myself being just a layperson.

But he is a true master, obviously. Could be that I liked "All The Pretty Horses" even more than "The Road". Unfortunately "Suttree" isn't translated to my language yet.

▲f30e3dfed1c9 a day ago | parent [-]

> Could be that I liked "All The Pretty Horses" even more than "The Road".

Have you read the others in the Border Trilogy, The Crossing and Cities of the Plain? If you liked Pretty Horses, you'll probably like them, too. Pretty sure I've read all three twice.

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▲godzillafarts a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Depends on your circumstances. I read it as a single male in university and loved it. Recently, I re-read it as an adult with two young sons. Absolutely devastating.

▲ultrasandwich a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Grim enough to make you cry before sleeping (possibly a lot if you have a kid), but surprisingly not as grim as Blood Meridian. That one you really need to brace yourself for.

▲joeguilmette a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is bleaker than bleak but incredibly rewarding. Unlike, say, Child of God where you are wallowing in filth, in The Road there is humanity and warmth and love it’s just the environment that is hostile.

▲beepboopboop a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not that grim. As a dad it brought me to tears. It’s so good.

▲f646993e074382f a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Very bleak, but nonetheless a must read. Wouldn't recommend reading it during a depressive episode or existential crisis though.

▲dan00 a day ago | parent | next [-]

It depends, you could also view it as: in all the bad there’s still some good.

▲trismus a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Personally, the opposite: suddenly my own world looks bright and inviting by comparison.

▲derektank a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Bleaker than bleak is an accurate description but it actually ends on what I would consider to be a hopeful note, a moment of true kindness. Worth the read.

▲arkaic 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Grim sometimes brutal but not gratuitous

▲chistev a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I didn't like No Country for old men. It started off great but lost me toward the middle.

The Road, however, is a classic.

▲BoofMcQueen42 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s been a decade but from what I remember, it is very dark. It was my first McCarthy book and have been hooked since.

▲canjobear a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As grim as it gets, with rare glimpses of light.

▲misiti3780 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I just finished it last week - as a father to young children, I have to admit I felt like crying by the end. It was a great book nonetheless, especially for someone who doesnt usually enjoy fiction.