It has always struck me as absurd that America is so accessible to Chinese nationals. The marginal boost to economic productivity isn’t worth the threat these people pose to national security; the Chinese understand this, so why don’t Americans?

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AlecSchueler 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Until recently the US was on the side of international cooperation. It's not only a pity that this has changed but it's sad to see that people are completely forgetting this, as well as seemingly forgetting the incredibly bloody history that we had to endure before embracing the idea of respectful cooperation.

Now China is the grown-up in the room while the US is running around like a maniac in Venezuela, Iran, and wherever else

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ballon_monkey 2 hours ago | parent [-]

China who is encroaching on its neighboring countries? Attacking ships in Philippines waters. Yelling at everyone demanding respect while disrespecting everyone around them.

No, China is no more a grownup than the US.

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		Has China invaded any countries or captured any foreign leaders this year?
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		China adds another dash to their South China Sea claim every other year it seems

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throwaway384034 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

China is high IQ. It is one of the top countries you will want to brain drain from.

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Avicebron 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is nonsense, China has a massive population, like india. So they have some benefits when it comes to distributions.

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throwaway384034 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>It has always struck me as absurd that America is so accessible to Chinese nationals.

This is what I was responding to. I'm trying to figure out how it is nonsense because India has a large population.

India already makes up like 70% of H1Bs.

	▲	Avicebron 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> It has always struck me as absurd that America is so accessible to Chinese nationals. The US as a whole is accessible to a ton of foreign nationals because there was a push in like the 70s-early 2000s to offshore as much as possible to developing nations and exploit the arbitrage of wage labor back home. That was coupled with a foreign policy that was essentially trying to assimilate the cultures through that trade relation. Obviously China didn't reciprocate that, and many other places didn't either. But the America side of that open door policy (sentiment really) hasn't really gone away, even with the more recent immigration stuff. I was responding to the claim that "China" or "Chinese as a whole" have higher IQs, that's not really what's happening. Which is why I brought up India, because it's a similar situation, lots and lots of people, plenty of those people are really smart. But it's a measure of a distribution, not really meaningful when talking about the people as whole themselves. Which itself is reductionist.

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pixl97 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why it is nonsense then?

Would you want to spend your time in a nation looking for 2 of their smart people out of 1000 or make national ties so you can get hundreds of smart people out of their billion?

Also internal distributions will not be even, those smart people are far more likely to be clustered.

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shimman 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Unlike India tho, China isn't burdened by American Imperialism and suffering from extreme economic poverty.

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Avicebron 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think it's hard to get a good read on China's actual economic situation from the outside. Which, in itself, speaks to larger issues as we would understand them in the West.

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analyst74 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There are plenty information about China on the outside, but nobody is paying anyone to push those into your feeds. It doesn't benefit any US entities to paint China in good light, and China largely doesn't market itself to the wider world (maybe to their detriment).

	▲	Avicebron 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If you have sources I would be curious, even the Chinese language ones I've found have seemed, lacking, for want of a better word.