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▲ 0xDEAFBEAD 2 hours ago

>Americans manifestly do not have a right to possess a driver's license, it's a privilege. The process for obtaining one requires expenditure of time, energy, and money.

Just get a state ID or passport then.

▲mos_basik 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

28 USD for a non-driver ID in my state of residence (1) (exceptions: free if you are homeless or are a blind veteran)

65 USD for a passport card (2) (the cheapest passport option).

Both require attending in-person appointments.

For contrast:

Voting is compulsory in Australia. Citizens may register to vote entirely online, and may prove their identity using a Medicare card or citizenship certificate (or driver's license or passport, ofc) (3). (Aside: this page of FAQs explicitly calls out that these two means of proving ID have been added as a response to increasing feedback from young people, disabled people, and people living in remote areas about having less access to driver's license or passport.)

Obtaining an Australian Medicare card is free, and citizens may prove their identity using a birth certificate (no need for it to be certified) and submitting their application + supporting documents by email (or by mail, but that costs postage) (4).

Free, and no in-person appointment.

1. https://portal.ct.gov/dmv/licenses-permits-ids/get-non-drive...

2. https://travel.state.gov/en/passports/apply/adults.html#acco...

3. https://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/enrolment.htm

4. https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/enrolling-medicare-if-y...

▲Arodex 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are these REAL ID? Are they free? How long does one has to drive to find an office who can deliver those? How much paperwork is needed? How many times does one has to get back in person to that ID office?

Stop. We can all see you argue in bad faith. You are at best incurious and naive, and at worst...

▲0xDEAFBEAD 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I think it is bad faith to implicitly assume a driver's license is required when there are easier options.

I have a state ID, a REAL ID. It was not particularly difficult to get. I'm a bit skeptical of the claim that there are major cross-national differences in difficulty here.

▲TFNA 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

ID cards in other developed and democratic countries typically require payment of application fees (sometimes modest fees, sometimes substantial fees) and visits to offices, too.

▲moistly 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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