> What the hate-leaders tell us to think about the mullahs and Iran, we could easily have thought about our own nations just a half a lifetime ago...

Or where they'd still like to take us. The only problem they have with Ayatollahs is that they call God by the wrong name.

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zulux 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, that, and the rapeing and the murdering. And sticking their women in sacks isn't a good look for the theocracy.

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jacquesm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The fundamentalist 'christian' groups are not much better from my vantage point.

	▲	sejje 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's hard to discern detail with your eyes closed.

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GolfPopper 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you talking about American religious conservatives in power, or Iranian ones?

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MomsAVoxell 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

See, there you go, doing it.

Do you think that subsistence-working at Only Fans, or the local strip club is a better alternative?

For every 'women in sacks' argument that can be made, there is a street downtown where women put themselves in immense danger just to be able to feed their kids, pay their medical bill debts, get themselves some kind of safety net...

Same shit, different social flavor.

	▲	Arodex 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		In America women can go to jail for their husbands' crimes, men are allowed to marry ten-year-olds, and abortions in some states are illegal, even in cases of rape. https://letterboxd.com/film/americas-war-against-women/watch...

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MomsAVoxell 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a pretty good framework by which to assess the longterm viability of a nation/state/group. States which violate the principles of the UDHR tend to be dreadful places to live in many ways - and this is as true of Western states as it is the non-Western ones.

I couldn't live in a state which allows its police forces to murder with impunity, for example.

The point is that the moral authority we claim over other states is a fallacy. Until we are actually protecting civil rights to the extent we expect of other nations, we are hypocritically justifying our own states heinous track record.

Alas, this seems to be understood pretty well by the ruling classes, who have subjugated human rights to mean "this gives us a right to justify the destruction of sovereign states and their peoples' we have deemed inferior".