| It is though? Like, every single election, someone runs on the platform of abolishing democracy. Every single election, it's important that person doesn't win, or there won't be a democracy any more. By all rights there shouldn't be one already, but we're lucky the democracy abolitionists are fairly incompetent. |
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| ▲ | jeremyjh 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We are very substantially less democratic than we were in 2024. The admin has broken laws regarding impoundment and war powers, just to name two. The executive has no legal power to determine funding allocations, or to commit to wars long-term. Yet both have happened and are still happening. Using the DOJ to interfere in state elections they have no jurisdiction in, and having masked men abduct people and ignore court orders regarding their disposition is just about as authoritarian as it gets. Those are all new things that have substantially eroded - or removed all together the idea of democracy in less than two years. | | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | On the other hand, it's possible to argue that America is still democratic, since it voted for all the stuff that's now happening. It would be pretty undemocratic if a president tries to stay in office age losing an election, and it would become irreversibly undemocratic if a president actually stayed in office after losing an election. | | |
| ▲ | sejje 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's not gonna happen. If one side shuts the other out of power, that's when we'll finally get the civil war many have been predicting for a long time. Hopefully the framework to limit power can stay in place, in spite of all the calls to change it, abolish the senate, pack the court, make sure to punish/"hold accountable" red voters, etc. | |
| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > it's possible to argue that America is still democratic, since it voted for all the stuff that's now happening It's possible, but not very credible, to argue that in a situation where direct democracy doesn't exist. The closest we have to voted for these things rather than voted for these people is polls, which overwhelmingly illustrate that most people oppose those things. We'll know more after the election, if people supported those things. > It would be pretty undemocratic if a president tries to stay in office age losing an election Yes, the current president tried exactly that, in a violent insurrection, and has interfered in national elections since regaining power. | | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 30 minutes ago | parent [-] | | People keep polling against the things that are happening, but in elections that actually matter they keep voting for them, so... and it's probably not just election tampering, because polls close to elections also show support. |
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| ▲ | 15155 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How did she do in the primaries? | |
| ▲ | throwitaway222 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean Karen Bass just said there's no need for an Election for the governor, it's Xavier Baccera. He's the governor already according to her. "You don't need an election on November 3. A Republican cannot win in this state." | | |
| ▲ | BobaFloutist 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Do you think she meant there shouldn't be an election, or was simply alluding to the incredibly predictable result we all know to expect? | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | In Alaska the GOP has filed a lawsuit saying the election was rigged but only if they lose (since it hasn't happened yet). I wish I was making this up. |
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