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▲ ShinyLeftPad 6 days ago

> The big American capitalists will recreate communism?

They will do the minimum necessary to keep people from revolting. The minimum will be less and less as time goes by and surveillance/elimination get better/cheaper.

▲watwut 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

So, we are back at what I said - poverty and aliances fighting for scarce resources.

▲ShinyLeftPad 5 days ago | parent [-]

no we're back to UBI. First maybe UHI as Musk called it, later UBI. It's cheaper because people won't bite the hand that feeds you. If there's no hand, people won't fight each other for resources, they'll fight the rich.

▲lazide 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The entire idea is just a trap, and an illusion sold by folks like musk while they continue to do what they do.

The only way it would be funded is with ‘chains’/conditions.

▲ShinyLeftPad 5 days ago | parent [-]

What idea is a trap? That population will live at behest of overlords who control technology and give people the minimum necessary? Such an appealing trap huh

▲lazide 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Compared to mass unemployment, eating dog food to stay alive, etc. which is the other obvious alternative? Why do you think the musks of the world keep touting it.

▲ShinyLeftPad 5 days ago | parent [-]

compared to a future where the tech they use to wield this sort of power is not allowed to exist. or even to status quo.

they tout UBI because it's one more way to control.

▲lazide 4 days ago | parent [-]

Eh, status quo is impossible once the cat is out of the bag.

It’s essentially nuclear weapons, except for social manipulation and propaganda production.

It’s too tempting/useful for any gov’t or large corporation to really allow to be banned. At least for them.

▲ShinyLeftPad 2 days ago | parent [-]

yep, nuclear weapons are not available to everybody

▲Apocryphon 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Again, the trap is believing that there is even an will to create such a bandaid, when the status quo could just continue indefinitely.

▲ShinyLeftPad 5 days ago | parent [-]

Again the status quo continuing is the good outcome here. UBI is a means of control, not some utopian communism.

▲watwut 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Elon Musk that Doge creator, the guy who pretended to save pennies so that he can cause as much damage to as many people as possible while costing a lot of money and breaking laws?

That guy?

▲Apocryphon 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Bold of you to assume that they will do the former and not just go all in on the latter.