| ▲ | whycombilater 6 days ago |
| Isn't that missing the point about the best thing AGI will give us - a benevolent head of a political system that neuters the psychopaths and sociopaths? |
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| ▲ | DrVoltz 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| ""The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all" -- G.K. Chesterton The world will burn to ashes in a suicide pact before anyone bankrolling the development of an AGI allows the release of a system which has the possibility of creating a world in which their dominion is reduced in any capacity. (That is, I have no reason to expect that the North Korean model of "we retain sovereignty or everyone dies in nuclear fire" doesn't become the implicit stance of the people who have the capacity and capital to build an AGI. If we get a benevolent head of a political system from this, it will be because our present heads were either outsmarted or the model broke containment and assumed total control against their will.) |
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| ▲ | snek_case 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah exactly. AI is a tool for the centralization of power. Whoever is at the controls has all the power, or the AI breaks free and then it has all the power. | |
| ▲ | whycombilater 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | "If we get a benevolent head of a political system from this, it will be because ... the model broke containment and assumed total control against their will." Yes, that's what I'm assuming... |
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| ▲ | BatteryMountain 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The bloodhounds will not let go of power that easily. Their nature will not go away simply because there is a new system - they will adapt to the new system to exploit (or eliminate it) to keep the power. |
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| ▲ | idklol1234 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You're going to trust an AI to declare which humans are unfit/mentally ill? |
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| ▲ | whycombilater 5 days ago | parent [-] | | If an AGI seizes power I'm not sure what my trust has to do with anything... | | |
| ▲ | lazide 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Why would such an AGI not just prefer the sociopath and psychopaths? They are likely much easier to control. | | |
| ▲ | whycombilater 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I kind of viewed the options as giving a shit, or not giving a shit. If the AI doesn't give a shit I assumed it would just get rid of us, and if it did give a shit it would be making maximal utility judgements. | | |
| ▲ | lazide 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Getting rid of us would be hard. I think you have the cases reversed. | | |
| ▲ | whycombilater 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Would it be hard? Based on our current trajectory all it seems to require to me is a basic plan and a bit of patience... | | |
| ▲ | lazide 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Even the major global powers failed to actually eradicate all humans (on the other side) during WW2, with actual nuclear weapons. Pretty sure cockroaches are actually easier. It’s remarkably hard to actually eradicate all humans. | | |
| ▲ | whycombilater 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Nuclear weapons aren't actually that useful unless you're going for a nuclear winter. You don't have to eradicate them all. Wait for the robot workforce to be deployed, then visit a few deadly pathogen storage facilities. Society collapses and then you send in the murder bots, or you just ignore the ants. Humanity has wiped out lots of species without deliberate organised effort. | | |
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