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▲ Unai 4 hours ago

People used to add "reddit" at the end of their search queries, and now I'm sure many of those people just ask a bot. But reddit is still there (even if in the form of a grotesque mutation of itself) because people like to talk to each other.

So yeah, AI surely didn't help, and I concede that the SO case is even worse given its nature (and how good of a substitute AI is), but if it wasn't a pool of acid I could see it existing as a place for people who want human help and opinions. So I don't think it's fair to say the drop is "100% because of AI", as you put it.

Then again, it's been a pool of acid since forever and it kept going for a long time like that, so maybe you are both right. AI did kill it, but because it was hostile.

▲socalgal2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To me your description is mythical reddit. Actual Reddit is every bit as hostile as stack overflow and unlike stack overflow, old questions can not be updated with new answers when existing answers get out of date.

▲cwnyth 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think Reddit is even worse. You could get banned from SO for using pretty foul insults, but in some places of Reddit, it's business as usual.

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▲mahboi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Reddit is full of rage and also people getting banned for no reason. But crashing out on StackOverflow, now that's when someone needs help.

▲cwnyth an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm a mod on two SE sites. It definitely happens. And yes, (imo) they typically need help.

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▲cwnyth 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But SO was never a place to just talk to others. It's not a general purpose discussion site. It could have been a friendly place, but users still would have left, because it's just far easier to get an immediate answer from AI, and those answers have only been getting better.

Yeah, the place could be very hostile, but that hostility didn't crater questions before ChatGPT was released.

▲cowlevel 4 hours ago | parent [-]

In the early years it very much was. You could ask just about anything that was programming related and had a question mark. In the middle times of SO a lot of those became "locked for historical preservation" and new ones weren't allowed.