At this point if you are self hosting you should have everything behind a VPN. Only companies with their own security and development teams should be putting things on the public internet.

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jamesfinlayson 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Gosh I'm at a big company and I'm pretty sure all the self-hosted tools are only accessible through VPN-like tech anyway. The only truly public stuff is Jira, Confluence (which I assume it more to do with Atlassian's pricing of self-hosted) and Sharepoint.

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Operyl 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Atlassian products (Jira Server) are no longer supported, and their more Enterprise offering dies in 2029, so everything is ending up in their cloud now yeah.

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egeozcan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I know a lot of companies vibe-coding alternatives. I'm not an expert but it's perhaps even illegal for most European companies to migrate any customer data to Atlassian servers.

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StableAlkyne a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

This is a conversation I keep having.

Someone wants to vibe code an alternative to a SaaS tool... And my gut feeling is "no, this is bad and it will blow up"

But then the alternative is paying $X million per year for licenses to a half-assed program that hasn't had a UI update since 2005.

I just don't have a good argument on why they shouldn't when the outcome will be just as dogshit, only cheaper.

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griffiths 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can you give more information on "illegal for most European companies" part? Asking for a EU company using Jira :)

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Sebguer 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This person is just posting absolutely baseless claims, as if Atlassian, a company that basically exists purely on the back of B2B SaaS sales, has not considered EU data residency requirements in their core product offering: https://www.atlassian.com/software/data-residency

	▲	jamesfinlayson an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah I thought Jira at least was all built on AWS these days. I've never set up a Jira Cloud instance but I'd be surprised if you don't chose where your data lives.

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bombcar 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is how SaaS dies, vibe-coded to death.

I’m doing my part!