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▲ ck2 2 hours ago

Not sure how I feel about this but I am sure about one thing

There should never ever be a masked police force in this country, it's disgusting

Think about all the things we've written off in the past two years and faded from the news

Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments

And all bets are off for the next two years, looks like Dems will get the Senate but even then they can't stop the scorched-earth that is coming

▲drop_star 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Remember when these people had issues wearing masks (Covid). Now all of a sudden its not a problem.

▲pixelatedindex 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It feels more like a reverse psyop, like “look we are wearing masks now, isn’t this what you wanted”?

As long as the sides keep reducing common ground, the farther away from government for the people, by the people we go.

▲wredcoll 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Tell me more about how "the sides" are reducing "common ground"?

▲bediger4000 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Again, let's think of two children fighting over their shares of a cookie. Child A says he should get all of the cookie. Child B says that wouldn't be fair, the cookie should be split evenly, half and half.

The adult in the room decides to promote common ground, and gives 75% of the cookie to A and 25% to B.

▲denkmoon an hour ago | parent [-]

who exactly is the adult in the room supposed to be in this analogy? There _is_ no adult in the room, just the two children.

▲thrance an hour ago | parent [-]

The adult in the room here is the moralizing "enlightened centrist" that puts bothsideism in every conversation about politics.

▲DeluluDon 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Just remember that 1984 is fiction and not an instruction manual. Try not to get too authoritarian over demographics (any and all of them).

▲ck2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am not so sure people started saying "this is fine"

more like he started 1000 other fires, several each week if not a new one each day to make far worse problems

It's not just the most corrupt administration, it's the most chaos and definitely by design

btw all investigations dropped for the execution of two citizens, I mean that's definitely not fine with anyone, just way too many other problems going on now at the same time

well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

▲ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

This assumes The Other Side will do anything if they do get into power. My prediction: A milquetoast moderate leads the (D)'s and declares: "In the interest of unity and moving forward, we will not go after anyone in the previous administration. Let us all hold hands and get past this with minimal drama... They have pinkey promised they will never behave this way again when they get to power, and we believe them."

▲KerrAvon 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

The Democratic base is way too angry for that to fly this time. If Jeffries tries it he'll be removed as speaker.

▲dabinat 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Part of the problem is that the justice system is as slow as molasses. They tried to hold him accountable for things he did in his first term and four years wasn’t long enough.

▲wredcoll 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

Eh, owning the supreme court helps a lot. It moves pretty quickly when it needs to protect trump.

▲toomuchtodo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's wrong when they feel like it infringes on them, it's okay when it empowers and emboldens them to cause harm to others without repercussions.

▲SchemaLoad an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's going to be massive trials over the next few years. So many people are going to have accountability catch back up to them. Maybe not the ultra rich but all these ICE goons shooting people on the street will be held accountable.

▲aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

I Want to Believe

▲sheepscreek an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anytime I see one I can’t shake off the feeling I got when I first saw Watchmen. I thought “this is so dystopian and bizarre; so out there”. Didn’t have this in my bingo card for the decade.

▲havnagiggle 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Senate can hold people in contempt with a 50% vote. So they could do something to reign in the fascists starting January, but I'm not holding my breath. And that's still a long road.

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▲ck2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Senate has no mechanism to prosecute contempt charges

That goes to the DOJ, which of course means nothing happens, at least for next 800 days

▲taylorfinley an hour ago | parent [-]

It's my understanding they can detain under the inherent contempt power, it's been reported [0] that the House has a jail that can be readied if needed.

[0] https://rollcall.com/2019/05/08/just-where-is-this-secret-ho...

▲jfengel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That opens a can of worms that you're never going to close.

Maybe this is such an emergency that it's worth the risk. But the risk is extremely high; if you do it to them, even with the best of reasons, they are going to do it back to you for any reason they can think of.

▲anon84873628 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hence why it is important to be thorough.

Plus they will do it anyway. There is no shame or honor regulating their behavior.

Accountability is what was missed last time and is the only way forward.

▲wredcoll 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

God I am tired of this argument.

What you're saying is that "we" shouldn't enforce the law because "they" will break the law in response.

Aside from being inherently morally bankrupt, they'rw already breaking the law.

▲nilamo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Good! Both sides should be prosecuting each other over violating the constitution.

▲wredcoll 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

Hey remember when we had a 2 (plus?) Year trial over whether or not the president had sex with someone other than his wife? Something about family values or morality or whatever they said at the time?

▲ihsw 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲mitxela 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I doubt the Dems in office want to stop any of it

▲nonethewiser an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Many will say that they wouldn’t need to protect their safety and privacy if they werent doing something wrong.

But in terms of if its ever appropriate for law enforcement to wear masks, isnt the question if its ever possible to threaten a law enforcement officers safety who isnt doing something wrong?

The FEDs wear masks in cartel operations all the time and that seems fine.

▲ethin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not really sure what your getting at. The entire reason that masked LEs are opposed is because (1) it makes it impossible to hold them to account and (2) it makes it trivial to impersonate any LE (ICE hasn't exactly tried all that hard to make special gear for themselves, just buying what's on EBay and similar, so literally anyone could just buy the same gear they're using and impersonate an ICE officer, and since ICE doesn't like identifying themselves, you would have no immediate way of distinguishing between a random citizen who wants to ruff you up or murder you versus a LEO)

▲KerrAvon 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yup. This is not okay. It should be illegal. Maybe it is, IANAL. This person didn't know whether she was getting arrested or kidnapped or why. On top of which this is unnecessary brutality on the face of it. This needs to stop.

https://kotaku.com/umamusume-pretty-derby-cosplay-clara-tan-...

> As she hits the sidewalk, Tan hears what she describes as “a godawful crack” come from her foot, and then realizes she’s being cuffed behind her back. “I’m being kidnapped and I have no idea who these men are,” Tan writes. She’s dragged to an unmarked SUV, thrown in the back, and claims to have heard one of the men say, “This could all have been avoided if you’d just come quietly.”

▲dabinat 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

They don’t have a right to privacy when they’re at work. The Supreme Court has said it is legal to film officers, including their faces, while carrying out their duties.