100%. They don't even suggest a release timeline other than "we look forward to bringing Carbon to developers, businesses, and consumers soon". Claude and GPT-6.x will no doubt have improved versions by the time "soon" comes around.

Has there ever been a product category where a product release is valuable for a shorter time than with LLMs? Trying to build SOTA models seems like it'd be an exhausting hamster wheel to work on.

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Silagi 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of the work is carried over model to model, so I think the most comparable product is a live service game. Always have to be building on the last thing, and if you stop you'll essentially lose the entirety of the initial investment because you won't keep anyone's attention. Plus a healthy dose of "winner-takes-most".

Just. Yaknow. 100x the costs, at the least.

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londons_explore 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When every day matters to profitability, I'm really surprised providers do voluntary cyber security testing or government approval in the critical path.

To be honest, if I were an LLM provider I would be wiring up my release process to be fully automated so within 10 mins of the last bit of fine-tuning it got released and a blog post posted.

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xnx 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Google is in it for the long haul, not to IPO before they run out of money.

	▲	pseudosavant 36 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That is a pretty major differentiator versus OpenAI/Anthropic. Public markets won't be kind to the amount of money Anthropic loses every quarter. I'm expecting for it be many many quarters before OpenAI or Anthropic get anywhere near profitable. They'll never be able to grow revenue fast enough to catch up with their current level of investment. This is when I feel like OpenAI and Anthropic could be the Yahoo and AOL of this iteration of the internet. The center of the universe for a bit, but a limited number of days at the top.

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joquarky an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

We need to bring back the term "vaporware".