What's the point of a touch display if the laptop doesn't have a 360 hinge !? The interaction looks very awkward and unless they stiffen the hinge compared to previous model, the thin screen will keep tilting backwards.

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at1as 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Touch screens don't want to be vertical" "After an extended period of time, your arm wants to fall off" "ergonomically terrible"

- Steve Jobs

Apple: check our new vertical touchscreen!

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perbu 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Jobs was wrong about a lot of things. Just because he thought an idea was silly, doesn't automatically make so.

	▲	mixmastamyk an hour ago \| parent [-]
		He was right about this one. Never used the touchscreen on my old Dell except by accident, over the last decade. Shoulder gets tired holding up arms.

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crystaln 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He also thought people didn’t want big phones and tablets.

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ChrisLTD 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Jobs died 15 years ago, and since then, Apple has been successfully selling iPads in vertical/laptop like configuration for nearly a decade.

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makeitdouble 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The crucial part is, iPads can easily be detached from the keyboard when needed. Apple made a point to have very flexible keyboard cases for that.

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aucisson_masque 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And before he came back, apple was on the verge of bankrupt because people without any vision whatsoever took the lead.

The same kind of people are now doing it again, it will take time but every decision apple has been taking is giving me a bad taste.

even the evolution of macos and IOS. They are much closer to windows and android now.

	▲	grvbck 37 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> even the evolution of macos and IOS. ESPECIALLY the evolution of macos and ios.

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crystaln 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m not going to upgrade to get this, however given most devices are touch screen it has become almost expected. Sometimes you just want to move something with your fingers even if it’s not the main input method.

Personally I find I miss touch screen after using my iPad and Magic Keyboard for extended periods and then switching back to the laptop. I mostly use the keyboard but it’s very nice to be able to scroll, position things, etc

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teovall an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They did stiffen the hinge:

"In addition, a newly designed hinge provides greater stability while using Touch, and advanced video stabilization automatically smooths the camera feed in real time while using Touch on a video call."

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ipsum2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish I hadn't read this comment, because now I really feel like a 360 hinge is sorely lacking.

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rubicon33 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My wife sits on the couch, "indian style", with a laptop in her lap angled at about a 45 degree. She holds the edges of it with her arms, and brings the keyboard up to her stomach kinda...

Its hard to describe but its surprisingly comfortable looking and allows her to tap her way through everything without actually having to hold the screen up. If she lets go, the hinge keeps it up. If she needs to type, she just skoots it back back slightly

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asdff 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Macbook hinges always get loose with time too

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