Remix clone Hacker News

new | show | ask | jobs Github

▲

paaloeye 8 hours ago

Hats off to Stallman. It's absolutely crazy how it stays relevant for such a long time.

We should all learn from Emacs about software longevity.

▲

d-us-vb 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Stallman’s Principle:

The extension language should be a full featured programming language in its own right capable of creating substantial applications because that is something people will want to do!

I wish every application worth putting a plugin system in it followed this philosophy.

▲

paaloeye 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> I wish every application worth putting a plugin system in it followed this philosophy.

Does it open the door for compromising on the core XP whilst expecting everything to be a plugin for example? It's also making the task of testing N^2 complex.

Sometimes a well-thought-through plugin system is no plugin system. Kakoune (https://github.com/mawww/kakoune) is a good example of it.

I know it's an Emacs celebration party, but that one decision made Kakoune super stable and nice to use. (I'm looking at you NeoVim).

	▲	Barrin92 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>Does it open the door for compromising on the core XP in some applications yes, in Emacs I'd say no because Emacs itself is extensible and let's people utilize its own core functions and is itself almost like a mini OS. For example the completion framework is enhanced rather than replaced by plugins like Consult. There's a systems thinking aspect to Emacs plugin development. People make plugins always with Emacs itself in mind and to improve Emacs rather than merely the plugin. It's very anti-Unix philosophy in that way. Org-mode or Magit are good examples of this, they work well, and really only well, within Emacs. It's what I've struggled with every time I tried out NeoVim where I ended up with ten plugins all loosely held together by tape and always something broke when something else was updated.