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▲ iAMkenough 10 hours ago

The company that claims it "may never be profitable" just signed a deal to take even more of your tax dollars, is what I'm reading.

GSA should be working to host its own inference and models for federal agencies, not selling out to unprofitable private infrastructure.

Read their SEC filing, then decide if the "discount" is sustainable as a multi-agency dependency for decades to come. Or just blindly accept this as a positive and downvote away.

▲bradreaves2 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This isn't the government subsidizing a private venture, it's a private venture offering a discount to the government. What does profitability have to do with whether or not the government should purchase their services?

▲computably 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If the service provider goes under, the govt wasted their money.

▲ameliaquining 9 hours ago | parent [-]

...no? Whatever value they got from inference they already did is still there? Of course the government still needs to worry about vendor lock-in, but they'd have to do that no matter what, and also general-purpose LLMs are relatively replaceable for most use cases.

▲bagacrap 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If the company has a sustainable business model it will be profitable and hang around without jacking up prices. If not, you wasted time and money setting up the anthropic tool chain.

▲iAMkenough 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Given the statements in their SEC filing, it's not outlandish to consider the possibility of a long-term plan to make Anthropic models a nationalized, public utility before they go bankrupt.

If GSA is already considering vendor lock-in as they establish new public services across multiple agencies, the natural move is to build them to eventually transition to a federally-owned and operated provider. Especially with how involved the U.S. government is in limiting capabilities Anthropic provides to consumers today.

▲roosterIllusi0n 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Except that work would be cheaper to set up and the cost would drop over time if they were using local llms. Every dollar paid to a 3rd party rental service is a dollar that is burned in the fireplace. We are paying more for the right to be stuck paying more forever, it's ridiculous.

▲roosterIllusi0n 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not a discount at all. Every dollar for a rented service is being flushed down the toilet. Industry is moving to local llms, the government should have been ahead of them.

▲sailfast 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Claude gov is AWS Bedrock hosted on GovCloud which is managed via GSA schedule and FEDRAMP. So… that’s how GSA does exactly that these days.

▲iAMkenough 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm of the mindset that "GovCloud" and related products that make government dependent on private companies for vast government services is a bad idea.

If it's critical infrastructure, it should be publicly owned, funded, and protected by the federal government directly. Not rented from someone else under contracts that can be violated.

▲gnabgib 7 hours ago | parent [-]

GovCloud is not, Google (https://cloud.google.com/gov) and Azure (https://azure.microsoft.com/en-in/solutions/government) also provide said services

▲iAMkenough 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Notably, all three of those providers have an incentive to increase costs for taxpayers in order to serve their investors. And all of those providers have federal politicians invested in their stock price.