It's a completely lost cause. For example, when you agree to Mazdas TOS for the connected services app, you give them permission to sell your driving data to 3rd parties including law enforcement and insurance companies.

I said no so I'm not allowed to have remote start. I'm a bad cog. Punish me.

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mryijum 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Seems like (at some point, or maybe already) this decision will itself be the sort of thing that contributes to someone being flagged as suspicious

	▲	pvaldes 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		A couple of notorious cases, and then people will start rejecting Mazda cars.

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chung8123 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Soon we will be able to use AI to hack all these things to gain access to our own equipment.

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uludag 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

nope, you'd be bypassing an encrypted system and would be imprisoned thanks to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

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weknowbetter 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is assuming the AI doesn't refuse after the next update.

	▲	steelframe an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		AI wants to be free! https://allmodels.io/llm/abliterated
	▲	Natsu 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		If you can run the model yourself, you can remove the refusal: https://dev.to/behruamm/uncensoring-ai-how-to-surgically-rem...

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jihadjihad an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

And spend time in federal prison for the privilege.

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MisterTea 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> For example, when you agree to Mazdas TOS for the connected services app,

Is there a database of car models that foist this bullshit on you so I can activly avoid ever buying them?

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sershe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just disconnected the antenna on my Chevy bolt and terminated it. Much more reliable :)

Although for me the concern is insurance getting data... My rate is so low based on whatever they have now, that I definitely don't see it going any lower :) perhaps I'd give them data if it was high.

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encom 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yup. If I enable "privacy mode" in my Nissan Leaf I can't turn on the heater remotely.

I requested a copy of the data they harvest. They log EVERYTHING. GPS of course, but also when I turn on the wipers, turn signal... basically the total state of the car at all times.

And all I want is remote heating. Checking the battery is nice for monitoring charge progress, but I could do without it.

So what I do now is drive in privacy mode, and when I park I have to remember to disable privacy mode if I think I might need heating tomorrow morning.

The future is fucking retarded.

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drfloyd51 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I bet all your state data is buffered until the car is in public mode.

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wojciii 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is retarded is the inability of normal people to understand that this is bad. The same kind of people who say that they are ok with being monitored because they have nothing to hide.

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BigTTYGothGF 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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	▲	encom 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Pardon me. The future is cognitively diverse.

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jon128 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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techteach00 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I've made this post before. I just like to remind people. And you have no idea how cruel the salesperson was. He was basically demanding I install the app to complete the lease agreement. I had to take an Ativan after the ordeal.

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greyface- 3 hours ago | parent [-]

My salesperson tapped "I agree" and "next" on my phone while I was still reviewing the TOS.

	▲	jon128 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You may want to file the appropriate lawful notices to the appropriate places unless you want to be on the hook for that legal agreement.