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▲ gcanyon 6 hours ago

A nit, but given that this is from a major corporation, and LLMs are supposed to be em-dash-happy, it's surprising (disappointing?) that the announcement uses:

> audio-like music

That's a hyphen. What's "audio-like music" -- music that is almost sound but not quite? Music made from raw audio? :-)

▲istjohn 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, I think that sentence was supposed to be: Genie 4 is natively multimodal, enabling audio--like music, ambient noises, and interactive dialogue--to be simultaneously generated with the world.

▲_heimdall 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a proper use of a hyphen though, an emdash would be wrong.

▲gcanyon 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But it's not, unless you know what "audio-like music" is?

▲smallerize 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think so, and in fact an em dash would be much less confusing.

audio, e.g. music

audio — like music

▲_heimdall 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh maybe I did just misread the intent of the sentence? I read it as "something like audio" but yeah that is confusing since that would be all music.

▲pixelesque 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a suffix word though, not a pause.

Hyphens should be used to link compound/suffix words, not em dashes.

▲gcanyon 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed that hyphens should be used to indicate compound words, but you're saying that "audio-like" is an intended compound word? Then it's an adjective, modifying "music"? What would that mean?

▲_heimdall 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That was my initial reading and I may have just misread it as them intending it to be compound rather than an aside modifier.

▲pixelesque 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well okay, not a "compound" per se, but it's a prefix/suffix, which similarly should use hyphens.

▲IanCal 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think the disagreement here is not whether that’s how you should use hyphens but whether that’s what was intended at all. The term audio-like music makes no sense.

▲LordDragonfang 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think you're fundamentally missing the point being made here.

Yes, "-like" is commonly used as a suffix, in which case a hyphen is correct. But describing music as "audio-like" is clearly nonsense (music isn't "like" audio, it is audio), so that's not the sense in which it's being used here.

For clarity, the full sentence is:

> Genie 4 is natively multimodal, enabling audio-like music, ambient noises, and interactive dialogue to be simultaneously generated with the world.

▲oblio 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why does everyone hate colons?

audio: music, ...

▲gcanyon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No one ever got em-dash cancer…

▲manbash 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Genie 4 is natively multimodal, enabling audio-like music, ambient noises, and interactive dialogue to be simultaneously generated with the world.

Looks like a hiccup, which created an odd and ambiguous sentence.

▲trollbridge 5 hours ago | parent [-]

There used to be editors who would read press releases to catch this.