| ▲ | bigwheels 7 hours ago | |
> With 16GB of unified memory standard, configurable up to 32GB, and higher memory bandwidth up to 170GB/s Apple MacBook M5 Max has bandwidth up to 600GB/s, is 170GB/s for M6 the real limit? If so, wouldn't this slow down LLM processing? | ||
| ▲ | Choco31415 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |
There are rumors that Apple is not releasing Pro/Max versions of the M6 with the intention of focusing these research efforts on the M7 instead. Even then, 170GB/s is a bump up from 153GB/s of the M5. So we see a 11% uplift already. | ||
| ▲ | hbn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
Why are we comparing the M6 to the M5 Max? What was the speed of the base M5? | ||
| ▲ | gaoshan 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
If you want to do anything beyond getting a small single-core speed bump the M5 Pro is a better, more capable purchase. At least until the M7 comes out. | ||
| ▲ | epistasis 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
The M6 version is also cheaper than the M5 Max by a significant amount. I wouldn't be surprised if the M6 could keep up on LLM prefill (compute bound), but the memory bandwidth means that decode is going to be a lot slower, most likely? | ||
| ▲ | brandall10 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
It's a base M6 chip. The Pro doubles that, and the Max doubles again. And the Ultra doubles yet again. This is how the entire M series has always worked. So the theoretical Max would be 680GB/s. | ||
| ▲ | booty 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
It's also absolutely wild that you apparently cannot spec one with more than 32GB, for any amount of money? Wow. Not that I blame Apple here, for once. Seems like they're trying to cope with the limited quantity of RAM they can procure. And with the paltry bandwidth (170GB/s) of these CPUs they're a bad choice for anything but tiny local models anyway. | ||