Actually, they don’t! Intel Core Ultra Series 3 beats Apple laptops as of the M5 on battery life.

IIRC the Framework 13 Pro beats the MacBook Pro at both video streaming tests and office productivity with 300 bits brightness tests. (Framework live-streamed the video playback test, and the office provided productivity tests I referred to were done by Just Josh Tech)

Perhaps the M6 has leapfrogged but that remains to be seen.

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dmitrygr 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Neither of those have comparable perf

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Grombobulous an hour ago | parent | next [-]

They do, please look up reviews of Panther Lake 338H/358H. Example: Lenovo Thinkpad X9 15p Aura Edition

	▲	dmitrygr 31 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I did. I am seeing single core geekbench scores of 2700 compared to my MacBook Air at 3500. This, for a laptop that is thicker and heavier than my air.

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porridgeraisin 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In usual developer type tasks, among my friend group what I hear is that panther lake laptops are competitive with M4 laptops. But, M4s do that with a 55Wh battery, whereas most panther lake laptops come with a 70Wh battery. So if you're discussing chip performance per watt then it's probably an edge to apple silicon.

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Grombobulous 6 hours ago | parent [-]

72.4 Wh is the size of the M4 MacBook Pro battery, about the same size as the Framework 13 Pro.

Intel and now Qualcomm are really not far off on performance per watt. Mostly Apple maintains an advantage on single core performance.

The Panther Lake integrated GPU in the X7/X9 SKI is actually faster than the one you get in the base M5.

	▲	porridgeraisin 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You're right. I think I remember those numbers from an Air vs 3xxH comparison.

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jwilcoxson 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Competition is a beautiful thing.