| ▲ | arend321 an hour ago |
| I may not work less, but certainly different and better.
Just this morning I went for a long walk on the beach, barefoot in the water. Using nothing but voice interaction, I handled a couple of outstanding CRM tasks, sorted out some accounting issues and upgraded my search infrastructure (SearXNG) and most of all enjoyed my walk outside. I would not be able to do all this without AI and would be stuck behind my desk, daydreaming about going for that walk instead. |
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| ▲ | mlsu an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| With the power of AI, soon all of us can be doing outstanding CRM tasks instead of wasting time enjoying nature. Imagine the time savings we could recover by removing all quiet contemplative moments! |
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| ▲ | oxavier 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m a bit puzzled by this kind of comment, which pops up every time someone mentions getting some work done while out in nature. What it seems to miss is that we get to walk around while doing some work, not the other way around. The alternative would be being stuck at a desk or in a meeting room, not quietly enjoying nature on a day off. | | |
| ▲ | mepiethree 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The counterfactual is impossible to prove here, but I think it’s at least plausible that this poster, who I guess lives near the beach, could have enjoyed their morning coffee on the beach | |
| ▲ | alt227 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > getting some work done while out in nature > quietly enjoying nature on a day off You seem to have your concepts mixed up! I for one much prefer to do work at a desk instead of wandering around. |
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| ▲ | soon_to_be_sb 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yea, it seems that the OP neither did better work, or actually enjoyed the walk (I mean, how do you enjoy walk if you don't allow your thoughts to wander?).. |
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| ▲ | keiferski an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But wouldn't it be nicer to have that walk without being plugged into your phone, and have less actual work to do when you sit down at the computer? |
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| ▲ | arcfour an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | It would be even nicer to be carried by a bunch of servants and fed exotic fruits and not have to work, too, but isn't comparison the thief of joy? | | |
| ▲ | talon8635 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | For many of us, this would not be a better experience. The physical and mental components of doing it yourself is half the pleasure Of someone’s carried my ass around all day I’d be a physically atrophied and mentally addled maniac, on obese to boot if I’m stuffing my face the whole ride Part of the dilemma with modern culture is that most people seem to be striving for and hoping technology will provide pleasure funk laziness and glut. But these things in and of themselves produce bad outcomes. I get why people really stressed out might daydream about that, but this is probably more indicative of being overworked than of the virtues of laziness and glut |
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| ▲ | arend321 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | For sure, and a good part can already be automated. But certain things still require human intervention and always will.
Keep in mind these work related walks do not replace other outdoor activities. | | |
| ▲ | keiferski 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I get the idea and I used to try and optimize my computer time this way - working in the park, working while walking, etc. In the end it was just a hassle and a distraction. I’d rather have 5 solid hours of work and 5 hours of non-work, rather than 10 hours of an awkward hybrid. | | |
| ▲ | arend321 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The type of work indeed matters a lot, if you need any visual confirmation or have to look things up yourself it's probably not worth it.
As a solo entrepreneur I manage my entire business workflow. Everything is accessible from an API, from accounting to my CRM to S3 storage or my PostgreSQL cluster. Tasks can be handed off between different agents to keep things separated. Not sure when you last tried, but I feel I would not be able to do what I do today with last years models. |
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| ▲ | x187463 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| For those of us stuck in an office building, at a desk, AI models have enabled handling multiple tasks as a same time as fast as we can think. I'm absolutely doing multiple times the work I was doing before and the time between tasks is basically zero. Same pay, though, and drastically increased productivity and sense of effort. |
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| ▲ | _verandaguy 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What seems better to you, seems a bit nightmarish to me. If I'm going for a walk, the last thing I want to have on my mind is dealing with CRM software in any way. |
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| ▲ | arend321 12 minutes ago | parent [-] | | But it's a purpose built, tailored to my needs CRM, mostly automated. Like I ask, "which outstanding issues need my attention". I tell it what to do next, when to notify again and I'm done. All tedious form entry work is taken care of in the background. The choice is do you want to walk or sit behind a desk when doing a task that needs human attention.
It doesn't have to replace a nice "offline" outdoor activity. |
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| ▲ | mgaunard 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| While giving instructions via mobile is useful, it's naive to think you'd have the same productivity as behind an actual desk. |
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| ▲ | alerighi 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yes of course your employer is fine with you going walking barefoot on a beach instead of being in the office working, and it's happy to pay you the same money. Come on... Also, you are telling me that you can get only with voice interaction an AI to write well engineered and maintainable code, something I've yet to see an AI be able to do, to me the result that they tend is at best the same of a junior developer, except that the junior developer learns, the AI continues to make the same mistakes (because it's context is limited, when it's full it's full). |
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| ▲ | great_wubwub an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > would be stuck behind my desk, Or you would be unemployed and nervous about how you were going to pay your bills, replaced by someone willing to do the same work for lower cost while chained to said desk. |
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| ▲ | m_dupont an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Whats your setup? If I may ask |