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▲ littlecranky67 3 hours ago

I know it is an unpopular opinion, but if you do not want your content to be scraped, you have to put it behind payment walls and copyright it. In Germany we have decisions from the highest courts that deemed websracping perfectly legal (it was in the context of a competitor scraping airline ticket fares).

▲ffsm8 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They ignored the licenses, so kinda moot point you're making.

▲ang_cire an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Tons of those are (as the site admins admit) models that are themselves infringing on copyright, and thus any license based on copyright ownership is invalid.

You can't enforce a license on a 3d model you in turn stole from a game.

▲littlecranky67 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And how were those license conditions violated by downloading? Their are permissive in the first place, and violating without passing on to a third party is almost impossible.

▲ffsm8 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Were they used in a commercial context when a commercial entity downloaded it?

If yes, they were in violation of the license. Fyi, that's explicitly stated in the article we're commenting on.

▲littlecranky67 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Supposedly they are, that is enforceable how? Download is not anything. Training AI on them is not anything. Using the trained model is not a violation of the terms just because you think it should be.

▲ffsm8 2 hours ago | parent [-]

i see. as long as i can download Software that is made available for free for students its completely legal to do so and use them commercially as a non-student, after all its freely downloadable.

good thing you explained how copyright works legally, almost spend my money unnecessarily.

▲littlecranky67 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

COPYright becomes relevant once you COPY something. As in, give it to a third party. I don't see any third party involved here. The download itself is not subject to copyright - licensing terms may or may not apply - and just because the license text says something doesn't mean it holds up in court.

▲ffsm8 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

Til you can download something without copying said something.

Wouldve been great to know for people that have been found guilty after downloading illegal and unlicensed content.

Fyi, the nation you mentioned (Germany) adheres to a much stricter concept called Urheberrecht. Under this regulation, you're actually in even more legal trouble. Though Roblox ain't German, so kinda irrelevant, admittedly

▲phoghed 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, as of now, you can do exactly what you assume that Roblox did. How is this still surprising to people?

▲paxy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

How do you know what context it was used in?

▲echoangle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If it’s fair use, the license doesn’t matter.