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▲ cdirkx 4 hours ago

I understand the confusion, but isn't this kind of similar to asking does the iPhone 14 Max beat the iPhone 16 Mini? At least with phones there are hard specs we can use to compare, but in a lot of cases the answer will be "it depends"

▲Closi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

At least there is a simple system - the words 'Mini' and 'Max' are intended to refer to the size of the item (that one is miniature, and the other is their maximum size).

If they were called iPhone 14 Luna and iPhone 16 Sol then this is less clear.

Or on the flipside, if the models were called GPT 6.1 Mini and GPT 6.1 Max, nobody would be arguing about the names being hard to grok. The words 'mini' or 'small' are more descriptive than 'Luna' or 'Terra'.

▲lukeschlather 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The problem with that is then you would have GPT 6.1 Max with max thinking which is different from GPT 6.1 Small with max thinking.

If you look back the naming problem started around the point that OpenAI started doing reasoning models (o1, 4o) where they had to describe this fork in model behavior that let a smaller model think longer and be smarter.

You can come up with naming schemes that don't clash, but there's something to be said for this approach where the thinking level is like you describe and the model name requires you to learn that Astra is the largest model.

▲margalabargala 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> does the iPhone 14 Max beat the iPhone 16 Mini?

Sure, in a hypothetical world where the latest Max phone is two generations older than the latest Mini phone. In which case now you have to evaluate not only screen size but ALSO specs and component age and software support etc. How badly do you need the bigger screen? Etc

If you are comparing the iPhone 16 Max to the iPhone 16 Mini, everything is a lot easier.

▲saagarjha 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> iPhone 16 Mini

I wish

▲XCSme 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, but shouldn't then all 4 tiers be released at once? So we get 6.1 for all Luna/Terra/Sol/Astra?

▲someguyiguess 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No. It’s not similar at all.

▲nailer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's more like if Apple called the iPhone 16 the "iPhone 14 16 edition"

▲kridsdale1 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I’d rock an iPhone 1942 Edition.

▲someguyiguess 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Don’t forget to refill the kerosene tank!