I swear about twenty years ago there was a minor controversy as a commentator said something like "you'll need to drop him from your fantasy team after that," as it was seen as promoting gambling.

It's crazy how dramatic the shift has been.

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whycome an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Now players and teams will be displayed on screen with odds baked into the presentation and have it not even addressed by the commentator. Just normalized completely.

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FireBeyond 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

2007 I worked at MSFT, and they had a poker group. They were allowed to play in the communal spaces, but one of the restrictions was that there could be no variants in which a person placed a bet without seeing their hand. Under the Washington Admin Code for gaming, seeing your hand and betting made it a game of skill, betting (truly) blind made it a game of luck, i.e. gambling.

	▲	ButlerianJihad 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		When I played Puzzle Pirates, it included Texas Hold’em Poker as one of the games for landlubbers. Many pirates found that they could amass large fortunes quickly at the tables, rather than slowly on the high seas. Many forum posters also explained how Poker Had Ruined the Game for sure. Eventually, the high-stakes players graduated to “AoF” games by invite. You could go all-in on your hand, or fold it. That’s it; that’s the game. Once in the mid-1990s I interviewed for a junior sysadmin job for a workstation VAR. I was rather reluctant to take the offer for many reasons. As soon as I came on-board, one of my coworkers explained that there was some kind of office betting pool and that it was not really optional, if I expected to maintain good relations. I declined anyway. Worst job ever.

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esseph an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> It's crazy how dramatic the shift has been.

Follow the money. It didn't happen by accident, it was a well orchestrated campaign.