| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago | |
Constrained decoding has been in vLLM for a long time, and constrained tool call decoding has been in vLLM for a while, too. The blog post is rather confusing because until you understand the entire situation it appears to imply that they fixed vLLM (what the title implies) but really they just needed to configure it correctly. To be fair, the course of constrained tool calling configuration in vLLM changed over time in ways that changed behavior, which is the real problem. The Ubicloud team deserves a lot of credit for having benchmarks in place to track performance and catch regressions for investigations. Some of the providers you find on OpenRouter have inexplicably bad performance relative to others and clearly do not care this much. However, if this article left you confused because constrained decoding and constrained tool call schema have been features in vLLM for a long time, jump to the end where they show what configuration changes they made. | ||
| ▲ | jesdo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |
Overall, a fair assessment. I do want to place a footnote here that we did fix vLLM in the sense that its correct behavior for Kimi required code changes: it was impossible to fix it in the configuration. Later, the vLLM team fixed this problem upstream. Now, with the latest version of vLLM, the problem we describe can be addressed by setting the `--tool-strict-level` flag to `parameter`. | ||
| ▲ | jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
In part this is because VLLM is a confusing mess. It takes a large investment in time to get it to perform well (and when it does it is really good). But it is fragile and over complicated. | ||
| ▲ | svcrunch 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
> The blog post is rather confusing because until you understand the entire situation it appears to imply that they fixed vLLM (what the title implies) but really they just needed to configure it correctly. Just as a point of feedback for the authors, I enjoyed the article, and did not suffer the confusion pointed out above. | ||