No pelicans riding bicycles on this one, eh?

kennywinker an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Could one reverse the test? Feed ai generated svgs into the model and ask it to decide which of 10 animals (dog, cat, pelican, crocodile, etc) doing which of 10 actions (moonwalking, paddleboarding, sitting, riding a bicycle, etc.).

	▲	dannyw an hour ago \| parent [-]
		AlexNet (2012) can do the first part :)

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bushbaba 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Instead the right app is hotdog / not hotdog

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abhis3798 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pelicans are deciding.

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jumperabg 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Pelicans deciding if they are going to ride a bicycle.

	▲	egeozcan 44 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Bikes with integrated decision models deciding which pelican needs a ride the most. This made me realize it's been a long time since I did some brainstorming and how I missed it.

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v3ss0n 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah the most usesless and stupidest bench .. I don't know why LLM Community thinks its good idea to use that.. It can't work on decision systems.

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eblume 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's a meme. Simon Willison started doing it because, I'm paraphrasing, it's something that (at the time) was just sort of at the edge of what you could expect an LLM to be able to do, and also it's somewhat of an impossible task since, of course, Pellicans can't ride bicycles. From there, he started writing about it along with every major LLM release he covered. His coverage is generally well regarded (hi, Simon!) and so it sticks around. It's never been intended as a serious benchmark.

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adamsmark 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The 3D visualizations have always made it starkly apparent the difference in quality between quantizations and thinking.

The pelican meme is so much better than benchmaxxed stuff. Unfortunately we are likely now in pelicanmaxxing territory.

	▲	v3ss0n 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		already , i self hosted Deekseek 4.1 Flash , Qwen 3.8 Flash Next , Glm 5.3 flash , tested it , all benchmaxxed to the point that all of them can draw that well , much better than other logos .

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v3ss0n 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sorry I didn't knew it was started here and , lol I didn't know it was viralized by Simon of django! Now these days , many LLMs are benchmaxxed to it.

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locknitpicker 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Yeah the most usesless and stupidest bench ..

I recall that when this benchmark came out there were concerns that AI companies were gaming benchmarks to fake their progress. The purpose was to find something silly and outlandish that AI companies would definitely not have trained their models on, and thus have a way to check a model's capabilities.

A pelican riding a bicycle is pretty random. That was the whole point.