| ▲ | glassresearch 2 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm not saying your approach is wrong - but for my workloads, it makes a lot more sense to just pay for a decade (!!!) of Claude Code 20x Max. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | segmondy 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
My local model never says no. I never get banned. If I want to do security stuff, reverse engine, there it goes! Do I wanna chat about politics? No problem! Do I want it to analyze medical stuff? I don't get to hear that it's not a doctor and I should call 911. Do I want to explore legal docs, no problem! There are lots of things that cloud models will say no to! I read that don't even agree to help with advanced biology and chemistry topic much. I also never run out of tokens, no 5 hr limit. I can run it 24/7. I don't run out of tokens. I can run 16 sub agents at the same time, non stop! 1-4 billion tokens a month? No problem. Any agent harness I want! No restrictions. Privacy all day. My own true system prompt, not something someone has determined, no filters. Furthermore, there are many open weight cloud models that don't have equivalent online. For a while before cloud models got good at math, the best model at math was DeepSeekv2 Math and there was no API. The only way to use it was to run local. All sorts of audio models, image/video models, etc. No multiple subscription needed. Private UI for my family, kids included (I can guard what kids infer). Got a friend that really needs some tokens? I give em access through private VPN. Telling someone that they are paying for decades of Claude for local AI is like telling someone they are paying for decades of public transport when they buy a car. Sure, you are right, but ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | jacquesm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If I want to go out of business that is what I would do. Most of the data I have here could never be shipped to a service provider, I'd be in lawsuits for the next decade or so and die bankrupt. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | calmingsolitude an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
LLM subscriptions are heavily subsidized. I’d be surprised if Claude 20x costed the same after a decade. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | benoau an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If you know you will pay Claude a few thousand bucks a year a decade adds up too, owning the hardware could just as well end up cheaper because you can sell it or as others have alluded the price to rent could get much worse. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tjwebbnorfolk an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The bet we (self-hosters) are making is that once these companies IPO, they will be forced to do whatever they have to do to make money. i.e. price increases, more throttling of subscription non-usage-based accoutns, etc. They are subsidizing all of us to the tune of $billions in losses per month. That can't go on for a decade. Probably not even for another 18 months. I still use all the tokens Claude will give me on the max plan. But I also run deepseek v4 locally for overflow and for... contingencies. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||