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▲ sssilver 6 hours ago

If crap is indistinguishable from substance, is it truly crap?

If it is distinguishable, can’t the machines do the distinguishing?

▲pixl97 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

>The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it

I can put all kinds of words together that are legitimate uses of language, but that doesn't mean they mean anything or have any ground truth. Determining truth is massively more difficult than saying words.

▲mixmastamyk 5 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s not about refuting random collections of words, but rather that lies spread faster than truth.

▲pixl97 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you have kids?

As a parent you'll punish or otherwise teach your kids not to lie. Really quickly you'll find yourself punishing them for telling the truth, but not the full truth.

▲QuantumNomad_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If it is distinguishable, can’t the machines do the distinguishing?

No? Just like they are not able to reliably tell if a piece of text was LLM written or not aside from by having access to the watermarking that some providers and models intentionally embed in the text.

> If crap is indistinguishable from substance, is it truly crap?

The crap is very very distinguishable. But there is so much of it we have to wade through, and it’s only getting worse.