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▲ jruohonen a day ago

In-class exams, either written or oral. If you don't do homework, it is only on you. And with paper and pen, the next semester, yes.

▲ballmerpoint a day ago | parent | next [-]

> If you don't do homework, it is only on you.

The issue with this policy is hyperbolic discounting — students are fine choosing not to do homework when the consequences (EDIT: that is, doing poorly on the exam) are still in the future, but less so when they become present.

Then they lash out at the instructor, even if it’s really their fault.

▲dlx a day ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe it's changed, but when I went to Berkeley, it was really common that the homework counted for next to nothing and it was on you to do it since the majority of your grade (if not all) was on mid-terms and finals. No one really complained back then...maybe it's changed a lot, but if so, I'd say they should go back to their roots ;)

▲arm32 a day ago | parent [-]

This, it’s all exams. Homework is something to help students study, I guess not anymore.

▲10111001 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>> In-class exams, either written or oral. If you don't do homework, it is only on you. And with paper and pen, the next semester, yes.

> The issue with this policy is hyperbolic discounting — students are fine choosing not to do homework when the consequences are still in the future, but less so when they become present.

For me at least, in most of my classes, the homework was a tiny part of the grade. Just enough to maybe get over what you're talking about, but not enough to really matter.

▲iugtmkbdfil834 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

True. It was true when I was doing my classes and I have to imagine it did not get much better. And with math, there is very easy way to tell if you are anywhere close to understanding it.

▲JumpCrisscross a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Then they lash out at the instructor, even if it’s really their fault

I'd put great value, as an employer, in a degree that does nothing but weed out these people.

▲imafish a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Homework assignments ungraded but mandatory.

Then an in-class oral exam on a random subject drawn at exam entry.

Works great in my country.

At the end of the day, the responsibility is on the student to study.

▲rzerowan a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In high school math ,we usually had a stanupin the beginning of every lesson. Basically th entire class on their feet answering rapid fire questions from the teacher , usually some stuff that had been taught in the previous lesson. No calculator/notes just doing math in your head to get to sit down and start the class. Gnereally sucked when we were going through it , looking back though made digesting the material easier as you had to know, not just cram or hope for a calc or scrap paper to caluclate with.

So basically a oral pop quiz for math. i think could work well to complement homeworks by making sure the material as taught is actually inside the students heads.

▲sieste a day ago | parent [-]

you can only do things that suck when attendance isn't optional.

▲pavo-etc a day ago | parent [-]

.... i'm hearing the solution in the question

▲yunnpp a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That is not the point of the article, though. He posits AI will just do better than humans soon, and he no longer knows whether people should even study math (from the article). So the point is that pursuing those studies is no longer useful; how or whether you grade is irrelevant at that point. (To be clear, I am not defending the statement, just explaining what I understood.)

▲mlk a day ago | parent | prev [-]

this is what I had to do in Italian university and we often had to do both written AND oral exams.