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▲ Smalltalker-80 2 hours ago

It's beyond me why people are still buying smart TVs. I've juist looked on a large EU webshop (bol.com). You can buy a non-smart, full-HD, 40 inch TV for less than $200.

▲mikeryan an hour ago | parent | next [-]

All the ad tracking in smart TVs has driven prices down. Tracking and ad data has turned a customer from a one time purchaser to a revenue stream for as long as the device is in use.

If you want a high quality TV for the best price your best bet is either disable/opt out of all the tracking data, or even better just never hook it up to the internet at all and plug an AppleTV or Chromecast on it.

If you look for a Samsung TV without “smart” features you pretty much have to find them under “commercial displays” and you’ll pay a premium for it.

▲r_lee 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> full-HD, 40 inch TV

are we living in 2010 or something?

▲LikesPwsh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because for most people to get any utility out of it, they need to plug in a smart device.

It doesn't matter whether you run android TV from the TV itself or an external device.

All the popular streaming services throttle or block open devices.

There's no regulation on it, because regulators want locked-down hardware that can only take actions approved by them.

▲hcurtiss an hour ago | parent [-]

I find Apple TV to be a decent compromise.

▲goda90 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People want 4k, HDR, 60+ inches.

▲nicce an hour ago | parent [-]

And probably OLED or something close to that

▲amelius an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What keywords did you use? Dumb TV gives zero hits.

▲mpol 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's a category, "Geen Smart TV", under TV's. There are several for sale up to 55".

https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/l/42-inch-tv-s-zonder-smart-functi...

This Sony might be an option: https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/sony-bravia-professional-fw-55bz...

▲amelius 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ah right, I was looking on Google. Good to know there's a way to find dumb TVs!

▲chewchewchew 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

because 40 inches is tiny these days (sorry boys).