| ▲ | throaway3534621 3 hours ago |
| > But big tech cannot be regulated at all. It cannot be regulated because we let dollar/capital rise above political authority. |
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| ▲ | amelius 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Journalism also fails in uncovering it. Public awareness is step one. |
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| ▲ | swiftcoder 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't know that this is a discovery issue. It has been widely publicised that all your devices are spying on you for at least a decade now - hard proof was previously somewhat hard to come by, but a suitable regulatory agency could have gone digging at any point. | | |
| ▲ | gruez 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >It has been widely publicised that all your devices are spying on you for at least a decade now This sort of equivocation, where any privacy invasion gets rounded off to "spying on you" doesn't help either. Clickbait headlines over android making 100 requests to google gets lumped together with more serious privacy violations like random SDKs selling your location data, causing a learned helplessness where people think "spying on you" is normal and can't be avoided. | | |
| ▲ | swiftcoder 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > where people think "spying on you" is normal and can't be avoided Normal people, yes, but this is exactly what tech regulators ought to be gunning for. Even post GDPR, we just don't seem to have enough bulldogs in enforcement... |
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| ▲ | nicce an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The main issue is that the attention economy and social pressure are so hard to break. People keep using WhatsApp because it is convenient and everyone is there. There are no other reasons. | |
| ▲ | delusional an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Tons of media outlets have covered privacy failures in the past. The public doesn't care, and so the journalists stop caring as well. | | |
| ▲ | garyfirestorm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Awareness and care is one thing. A unanimous action plan is another. Violation of privacy is not viewed through similar lens as say theft or other forms of crimes. | |
| ▲ | Xelbair an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | media profits from privacy failures by proxy due to adtech networks. There's gigantic conflict of interest there. | | |
| ▲ | delusional 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | journalistic media resolve this by having independent editorials. There's of course still structural issues, especially if those media outlets are traded or seen as investment targets, but the general structure has worked for 50-60 years. This is one of the problems with the neo-journalistic outlets and "citizen journalism". They don't have the staffing or discipline to run that sort of operation. |
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| ▲ | throaway3534621 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | bulbar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Nothing and nobody rises above the authority in a dictatorship, that's kind of the point. The CEO of Alibaba was kidnapped after he publicly criticized the government. It's generally no surprise that there are not that many critical voices in a dictatorship. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Nothing and nobody rises above the authority in a dictatorship, that's kind of the point Until they do. That’s the problem with dictatorship. If you can kill and swiftly replace the dictator, you become the dictator. What the masses believe is irrelevant. | |
| ▲ | Rnonymous an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | How many american citizens were kidnapped without due process in the last year? | | |
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| ▲ | LogicFailsMe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Despite really kicking our asses on their approach to an AI ecosystem, China has problems of its own. Too bad we can't just copy the parts that work but those are the rules I guess. https://www.wsj.com/world/china-economy-gen-z-f9058941 | |
| ▲ | eklavya 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There are a lot of things you don't have to worry about in China because someone else makes the decision for you. Sure you want to strive for that? I feel sorry that democracies are failing their citizenry like this. | | |
| ▲ | idiotsecant 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Someone else making the decision for you is a good description for laws, which we decided a long time ago we would in fact have. It's weird how people come out of the woodwork like this when those laws start to point at rich people. | | |
| ▲ | goodmythical 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There's surely a difference between a system in which the population gets to pick who writes the laws and one in which they don't? The way a farmer decides what their pigs eat is far from the way a caring lover chooses their partner's dinner. | |
| ▲ | LogicFailsMe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Stupid obsolete laws that stay on the books forever is seemingly the American way and occasionally we refresh them with new even stupider laws that were obsolete before they were even proposed. | |
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| ▲ | throaway3534621 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure, why not? I'd like to live in a system where the interest of the nation and the people are above your or someone else's ROI. I'd like to live in a system where if you try, like Elon Musk, to amass so much influence on the nation for your own benefits - you're gonna be Jack Ma'd. | | |
| ▲ | universa1 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Who decides what the interests of the nation are? Who decides what the interests of the people are? You? I? This is generally not possible to do consistently, as if A prefers option 1 and B prefers option 2, you're at an impass... And I'd take the inefficiencies of democracies over dictatorships any day... | |
| ▲ | bulbar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I'd like to live in a system where the interest of the nation and the people are above your or someone else's ROI. Democracies are much closer to that than dictatorships as they don't need to care about the people and never did. Crazy that you like a system where somebody can just get kidnapped. It never just affects the "right" people, but also a lot of other people. China is jailing and kidnapping a lot - easily tens of thousands of more - of their citizen to sustain control. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > interest of the nation and the people are above your or someone else's ROI How do you think Xi Jinping’s family became billionaires? | |
| ▲ | bryan_w an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | And what stops Elon from becoming the person in charge? |
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