> Similar to zig, odin, and others, its basically just C with some syntax conveniences.

Extremely reductive and untrue. As someone who still writes/deals with C daily, there is room for a successor that still attempts to be a thin wrapper around an abstract CPU. The C type system and preprocessor has some glaring flaws that are not fixable in a backwards compatible way.

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program_whiz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah I'm sure there are some people who just want C with better syntax and faster compile times, for them I think it could be fine (assuming they don't need well tested 3rd party libs, an ecosystem, documentation, portability, or robust tooling).

I just meant as my general purpose goto language, I couldn't add to the roster. C++ is already filling that niche for me (except with all the aforementioned benefits), python for scripts, C# for a solid GC lang, there's just no place for a scrappy quirky lang with lots of sharp edges and no value propostion.

I'm just not sure why you would choose _this_ language for those needs. There are like 10 new langs that are all trying to be "the next C" and they all kinda suck (Jai included). I dunno, for me none of them had the same kind of feeling that you get from the really top-tier languages, they all felt like "we took C and solved these annoyances" not "we had a fundamentally new vision".

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ccapitalK 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I find that a lack of a GC means that I don't reach for these languages unless I have a reason to think I really need that level of performance, you lose too many conveniences, the perf gains are usually not worth the investment of thinking through memory ownership. The only language of this class that I regularly use is D, in that lang I can remove all the GC parts for things that do have such perf reqs while reusing most of my GC code, but the things I can do with GC end up being really concise and easy to read, while still being faster than the equivalent python :shrug:.

To be fair to Jai, Odin and Zig, there are definitely software libraries/applications that the world would benefit from having, where this level of performance is basically required. The standard tends to be C++ these days (Rust is rapidly gaining ground, but it's still inconvenient in cases where you frequently need to abstract under the allocator), and I think everyone is looking for a way to not have to write c++ for this stuff.

	▲	satvikpendem an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Interesting. I feel similarly but use Rust since I don't really have to think about GC or non GC, I use it more as a modern StandardML or OCaml but with much better performance.