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▲ folkrav 3 hours ago

On one hand, I obviously can’t legitimately expect the manufacturers of these things to support their older hardware offerings ad vitam aeternam.

On the other, it’s a freaking thermostat controller. An appliance. I don’t want to have to replace appliances before they break, and software breaking it is unacceptable.

I’ve been largely holding off on domotics because so much of it reeks of premature obsolescence... Maybe someone over here has good experience with Home Assistant et al?

▲roughly 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You could expect them to support the product for the lifespan of the product, though.

▲joshfee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been using NodeRED + zigbee2mqtt/zwavejs for my locally controlled home automation to great effect. I expose all my devices to Google Home as a convenient frontend, but all the actual devices are mine and locally controlled so I can replace Google at any point. I tried home assistant years ago, but aside from the wealth of plugins I didn't find its approach particularly convincing. I have on occasion used it simply as a bridge between node red and HA plugins before though which is nice for niche devices or integrations

▲paxy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It still works as a thermostat.

▲bagacrap 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

Also I assume it still can be controlled from your phone? Only the "learning" features are gone.

▲gosub100 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was looking at wireless cameras on eBay and had to stop because I realized I can't just check specs and price. I have to make sure they don't require a cloud connection and or a service plan.

▲CamperBob2 an hour ago | parent [-]

I just bought a couple of Reolink RLC-810A cameras, and realized too late (after receiving them) that they require an app just to enable communications and configure the baseline RTSP functionality. Claude found https://github.com/TinKurbatoff/reolink-init# and took care of the issue nicely.

I will probably buy a couple more of the RLC-810As, since I can only assume that newer models will be harder for the owner to actually own.

▲colechristensen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

plenty of things should have a mandatory sort of twenty year supportability warranty. not necessarily free repairs but an enforceable promise that a thing / "ecosystem" can be used for a reasonably expected lifetime

for a thermostat that's measured in decades

▲tonymet 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They could easily license the server component to allow you to run it, or unlock the bootloader so you could run third party firmware.

They've had 10+ years to plan ahead for this eventuality, and it's not rocket science.