| ▲ | America Has Lost 200k of Jobs in Media, Film and the Arts. How Much Is AI?(apricitas.io) |
| 117 points by gnabgib 2 hours ago | 89 comments |
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| ▲ | jparishy 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| I liked this article. I appreciate that it didn't try to say it is or isn't AI. To me, the entertainment industry suffers from a lot of the same problems in most other industries that chase "efficiency", in terms of resources used and profit made. Economies and industries and labor are interdependent and more "alive" than balance sheets and bank accounts. For the film industry, when you start moving things away from LA to "save money", it has knock on effects that happen over long periods of time. Multiple Quarterly Earnings Reports long, if you will. Local businesses that depend on the film industry close due to less work, so then there is less expertise available. Less expertise means it can command high prices. Suddenly it's too expensive to film in LA altogether. So the rest of the jobs leave too. This pattern seems super common, not just in the film industry. It is a narrative that interweaves with AI, too. AI is supposedly an efficiency boom. In the macroeconomy, who is the "efficiency" we are chasing for, who benefits? Who is getting the money that was "saved"? Regular people do not have more more money or time. The "efficiency" is for people who are already very rich, to get richer. Is that worth the price we're paying? I know my answer. The article gets close to it by mentioning the consolidation in Hollywood, but I do not see how we fix this without enforcing our antitrust laws. It is embarrassing what we let rich people do in the name of stock price go up. |
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| ▲ | BLKNSLVR 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Offshoring of manufacturing to China is the analogy that springs to mind for me. |
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| ▲ | sjdh76 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Before AI showed up the UN released a report on the Attention Economy. It said Supply of content had vastly outstripped Demand. It decoupled because entertainment/media was being used to push other products. The telcos, amazon, google/fb and many others were all subsidizing content to push some other product. Exploding info chasing finite non growing eyeballs and time. |
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| ▲ | Gigachad 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm looking at gaming these days and there's such an endless selection of excellent games I'd love to play. But there are far more great games than I have time to play. So when I see stuff like using AI to make games faster, I can only think what is the point, The market won't buy or play more games so something else has to give. | | |
| ▲ | stopsayingsorry 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | "there's such an endless selection of excellent games" If you have 0 standards. | | |
| ▲ | satvikpendem 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There are more games at any standard than one's lifetime to play them in. | | |
| ▲ | echelon 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Nothing meets my standards. Nothing. No film, no music, no game. There's good, but there is no truly magnificent to the level I burst into tears and see the face of God. Come on people. Your standards are too low. |
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| ▲ | skydhash 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Same thing here. I gave up on gaming all together because my library grew too much. As a kid, I didn’t even own a console, I had to borrow gameboy or go to my friend house and even then it was just an handful of cartridges. Even now, I plan to just focus on small sample of programming languages and ecosystems, and learn them inside out. There’s just too much stuff out there. | |
| ▲ | honeycrispy 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I started building a game on a custom engine a few years ago and I used to think about selling it, but nowadays the market is so oversaturated I tend to think of it as nothing more than a coding exercise. |
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| ▲ | echelon 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is infinite demand for content (to the limit that human attention can absorb it). Most content sucks ass. What may appear to be bountiful content is actually a lot of okay and meh content. Very little of it fits to your actual taste preference. It's a whole lot of mediocre. We as humans do not know what plentiful content looks like. We've never lived in it. Most movies suck. You doomscroll and are dissatisfied. You refresh your media recommendations and sigh. You are excited to see a new fantasy or sci-fi film that scratches that itch, yet often left disappointed. We are still in a desert. Anyone who says otherwise is settling for the status quo that our childen will call primitive and beastly. Jobs are disappearing because cheap/free ad subsidized content attracts more eyeball hours than produced and prestige content. It's the optimal pareto frontier of content and does the most bang for buck, most in aggregate eyeball hours. When the tools enable more creation at scale by tasteful creators, we'll start to get closer to content abundance. We're not there yet. | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > There is infinite demand for content (to the limit that human attention can absorb it). That limit is called time, which people struggling to get by rarely have. And the "most bang for buck, most in aggregate eyeball hours" is an extraordinarily mono-dimensional take on media and film. | | |
| ▲ | echelon 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > which people struggling to get by rarely have The hate for technological advances is so strong that we're wanting...
Entertainment austerity for poor people? Oh my God. This community needs more hope. > extraordinarily mono-dimensional take on media and film. You're telling this to someone who is Meisner-trained, who acts and performs, who has directed, shot lots of films, and who is heavily involved in the arts. A24 is my jam, and even that's not enough to sate me. I sincerely hope this isn't a performance. I want better. Both as a consumer and creator in the arts. |
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| ▲ | giovannibonetti 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > When the tools enable more creation at scale by tasteful creators, we'll start to get closer to content abundance. We're not there yet. This reminds me of the comparison between Japanese manga and American comics/graphic novels. Some people say the former offer a much wider variety of content and ideas because it is often started by a single (often quirky) author, whereas the latter is usually designed by a committee, which ends up favoring more bland ideas. Anime usually starts of as manga, and that's why anime is so creative as well. Perhaps AI will help single authors create more work by themselves, and we'll have a renaissance of comic books and other forms of (mostly digital) entertainment in the west. And we'll spend less time watching those TV shows on streaming platforms that follow the same few recipes. | |
| ▲ | dualvariable 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > We are still in a desert. It isn't exactly a desert? It is more like a full buffet, but nothing but cheap, mass-produced sugar literally everywhere. All the 2-star donuts and chocolate cupcakes you can eat, and nothing but that. | | | |
| ▲ | PaulHoule 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I would look to the culture industry in Japan as an alternative to the gatekeeping-industrial complex we call Hollywood. Hollywood's cost structure makes it impossible to try anything new. I'd contrast that to Japan where creators can write a "web novel", get a contract for a light novel, have a manga made, and then an anime, and maybe even some video games. And these all reinforce each other: last year I discovered an atrociously drawn anime that had got me curious about the source material -- that blew me away and I bought all of the printed materials that have come out so far and expect to buy all the rest. Not least, Japan still gets new 4-panel comics like Bocci the Rock and The Demon Girl Next Door, something almost unthinkable of in the Land of the Nepo Baby where we haven't had a new one since Dilbert. |
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| ▲ | 999900000999 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No one has any money and entertainment is the first thing you cut. Every streaming service feels more and more user hostile. If I want to watch South Park it’s a 15$ a month subscription just for that . Paramount Plus has nothing else. I want to watch Lanterns, another 30$ a month. Maybe King of The Hill , 20$ a month. The Reboot has this weird lazy animation style. |
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| ▲ | kaseijin 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I just don't pay for it. If there's something I really wanna watch I might buy one month of the service binge it then cancel. The streaming model has imho mostly killed old style television formats with the new way of hyping up a show in the first couple episodes by tossing money and talent, then leave people to hang with unsatisfying conclusions once you've got that sub money. It's all about convincing people to sign up and stay signed up with promises for new content. The quality of the content doesn't matter as long as there's a lot of it and it's enough to keep people from unsubscribing. With traditional TV your value was directly determined by how many people were watching so you could sell addspace. And despite there being less choice and harder for independent players to get time, in some ways it was weirdly more democratic because if a show sucked or an episode sucked people would just change the channel or watch something else. With streaming they still do that but it's all in the same price scheme so doesn't hurt their bottom line. They're incentivised to just crank out as much crap as possible to keep subs up. Won't last. | |
| ▲ | ajkjk an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | and the content strangely sucks most of the time. like no one can write, edit, direct, or act anymore. Not always but strangely often. | | |
| ▲ | 999900000999 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Every thing is safe. If certain ultra conservative countries don’t like LGBT representation they don’t get to be in your major movie. At this point I don’t know the difference between Chat GPT writing the next marvel movie or Disney hiring someone. Either way the story needs to be crystal clear. You never watch something that makes you think. | |
| ▲ | LPisGood 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I feel like this comment contrasted with the incredible movie releases this since ~May is just not holding water. | | |
| ▲ | atentaten 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Which of these movies would you say are good? I haven't been following up with releases but would like to watch something worthwhile. | |
| ▲ | tayo42 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It felt like there were years where good movies like stopped being made. Or just contrasted with years filled with good movies. What came out this year that you think you'll watch again in 10 years? |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well it's shot on a phone, lit with bad LED lighting and edited on a laptop. It all shows in the final product. | |
| ▲ | MiroslavPokorny 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It feels like all media, from tv shows to movies are all following a certain formula, with a goal to drive a certain social perspective about people and society. |
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| ▲ | _heimdall an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I believe its called South America now. | |
| ▲ | so-gala-massey 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I stopped watching broadcast/cable TV 20 years ago. I had Netflix until they switched to their own content and started raising rates, so I dropped it. I now rent DVDs from a place about 15 minutes from. I also have Kanopy for free. Here’s the opinion: stop watching. That’s the only way to send a message. Read a book. Rent a dvd. Or play a game. Or draw. Or visit friends and play board games. Or learn to play an instrument. Or find a game store near you and go to game nights. Or bowl. Find something else to do than drool at a screen watching content product that doesn’t give a shit about. | |
| ▲ | senordevnyc 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Without even looking at the data, I bet both of your hypotheses here are wrong. I bet the median American has more real disposable income than four years ago. I bet the median American spends more in real terms on entertainment (and streaming specifically) than four years ago. Almost without fail, the data in almost any area of modern life seems to be way less negative than people’s vibes about it are. | | |
| ▲ | WarmWash 27 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think we are still in a hangover from the financial cocaine the governments were handing out during the pandemic (and even long after it was a problem). |
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| ▲ | qurren an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Also, nobody has any time for entertainment. Office workers all working 80 hours a week fearing stack ranking, PIPs, layoffs, needing to scramble to get a new H1B job or risk getting kicked out of the country and having to uproot kids. Service workers are working 120 hours a week across 3 jobs. Single people are working 100+ hours a week studying and interviewing and not getting jobs. | | |
| ▲ | cjpearson an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | While this may be true for some people, overall this is not backed up by the data. The average amount of time spent doing "Relaxing and leisure" activities (mostly TV) has increased 6% in the last twenty years. There was a small decrease after the post-COVID peak, but working time has also decreased in this time frame. https://www.bls.gov/tus/tables.htm | | | |
| ▲ | _heimdall an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Interesting, I have seen people be stretched thin and more stretched but I haven't seen people working 80-120 hour weeks. Different circles maybe? I do feel for anyone trying to find a new H1B sponsor. I've lived and worker as a foreigner before, its stressful for sure. It is also a tough spot for a country to be in, if your domestic labor is struggling to find or keep jobs itsnhard to justify continuing protections for foreign labor. |
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| ▲ | geraneum 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| How does one consider, depression, inflation, interest rates and investments, purchasing power, and other impactful economic downturns for such analysis? During this window a consequential war in Europe, another one in Iran leading to an energy crisis, has happened as well which could accelerate the existing trends in one way or the other. I think any serious comparison should control for these factors. |
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| ▲ | commiepatrol 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Have you seen media, arts and film that America produces recently? It's garbage. |
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| ▲ | cute_boi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I can't watch youtube due to all these garbage. Youtube should allow me to blanket ban on publisher who use full AI for full video. | | |
| ▲ | WarmWash 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Ironically I find that YouTube has the absolute best content. It's the only one with authentic people making quality stuff for exactly your niche. That doesn't mean there isn't trash, and I suppose if tv series are your jam it's likely sub-par, but for me it's unmatched by light years. | | |
| ▲ | Gigachad 19 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's got good content but also a massive amount of slop. You don't see much straight up AI generated video, but it's incredibly common to see youtubers just sitting there reading a ChatGPT script. | | |
| ▲ | rockskon 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | "In this video I'm going to..." "Let me tell you why!" "Is not X, it's Y!" and so on. It's so tiresome. I can't stand AI scripts. It makes the entire video feel like a waste of my time. |
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| ▲ | loloquwowndueo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I just stopped using YouTube for entertainment years ago. Try it! (I still jump in for the occasional video tutorial etc but it’s always targeted - go for one thing, swoop in, close it when I’m done. | | |
| ▲ | bubblemoth an hour ago | parent [-] | | Where do you find entertainment now? | | |
| ▲ | dylan604 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I just listen to one of many of the voices in my head and see what they have to suggest. Things get interesting | |
| ▲ | Dove 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm not who you're replying to, but I tuned out big movies and TV long ago, and just recently, YouTube became a hostile enough environment for me to start limiting it. When I do go there, it's to watch specific channels I already know. Clickbait titles and slop suggestions just aren't worth the psycholigical hassle when I want to relax. I had been replacing it with podcasts, but they are so ad-infested now that it's been pushing me more and more to audiobooks. I also watch a fair bit of content on smaller special interest platforms, like CrunchyRoll for Anime or Pepperbox for guns. They're easy to sub and unsub depending on what I'm interested in. I often rent old movies. And more and more... I read. I had used Prime's videos for a while when they had something I liked, but the ads have gotten so bad that I now go out of my way not to emotionally invest in anything they produce. The experience has left me skeptical of other platform exclusive shows and I generally just go do something else with my time. I used to be a big fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek, but at some point they both started producing Platform Content and in response, I haven't watched anything from either for about a decade now. |
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| ▲ | 0c3ca83 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They can't, as far as organizational politics goes. Tech is all in on AI. | | |
| ▲ | ion_trapper 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Being all in on AI doesnt mean they have to be all in on bottom of the barrel slop videos. Youtube actually does a great job of not serving you slop if it gets to know you well enough. And it does notify you if it detects the video is AI generated. I would hope tech companies are awake to the fact that people’s feeds being deluged by the absolute uncanniest and disturbing visuals you’ve ever seen is feeding into anti-AI sentiment, and they probably shouldn’t be further enabling that. |
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| ▲ | add-sub-mul-div an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Vague takes like this scream Facebook boomer. There's lots of great media and lots of bad media. It's the nature of trying to monetize creativity. | | |
| ▲ | talon8635 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | What does this mean “to monetize creativity”? Are you suggesting creatives just give their work away for free? | |
| ▲ | TacticalCoder a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Apparently you need a 10 K+ karma account to say the following (which another account, a new one and not mine btw, posted). Some I'm just reusing the other dude's words: In contrast, thought-terminating clichés like "facebook boomer" show critical thinking on your part. (btw the boomers are my parents' generation: don't go thinking I take it personally. I'm a GenX'er and GenX'er are badass, which is why I don't give a flying fuck saying what I think). | |
| ▲ | 46283737292 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | In contrast, thought-terminating clichés like "facebook boomer" show critical thinking on your part. | | |
| ▲ | Stitch4223 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Please don’t sign up with burner accounts for one snarky reply: take responsibility for your words. You could also respond with something nice that inspires the author and other readers. Provide food for critical thinking instead of accusing people of not being critical thinkers. For example, tell us what new media from the US is actually great today. What do the arts offer that is next level and worth watching? Is there a rise in arts in other counties that we are missing? What could Facebook boomers need that leads to more and higher quality arts and movies? | |
| ▲ | martinky24 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Tell me more, 5 hour old account |
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| ▲ | wellthisisgreat 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is some resurgence in quality here and there but then there is Avengers, MCU, Star Wars and idk how you can balance that with any amount of quality indie products | | |
| ▲ | Arubis an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | This might be (unintentionally?) part of the reason for the original subject: how many jobs does the Avengers IP pipeline support? How about for a single artifact output by it--one TV show, for example? And how many people work on a well-loved indie artifact of about the same market position? Gonna guess the latter supports way fewer jobs. (This isn't meant as a judgment in taste or moralizing--my own entertainment tastes run indie towards pretentious, so economically I'm part of the problem.) | |
| ▲ | drivers99 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The last Avengers movie was 7.5 years ago. The last Star Wars episode was 7 years ago. (The Mandalorian one is the only standalone one since then.) Avengers are included in the MCU btw. There have only been about 1 to 3 MCU movies per year for the last few years. (2022: 3; 2023: 3; 2024: 1; 2025: 3; 2026: 2). There are tons of other, really good movies to watch. Not just indies either: Did you happen to see Project Hail Mary this year? The Odyssey? I missed Spider-man: Brand New Day (the MCU movie that came out this year so far), but it has 90% on Rotten Tomatoes, so I don't think that drags down the average in terms of quality either. | | |
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| ▲ | OgsyedIE an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "You're going to begin to see demand destruction based on the pricing environment." - Bob Jordan, CEO of Southwest Airlines, April 23rd |
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| ▲ | combobyte an hour ago | parent [-] | | "We've finally gone too far on pricing" is a wild thing to hear a CEO say out loud in 2026. | | |
| ▲ | redwood 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's not that the prices are up to milk the consumer. Look at Southwest's thin profit margin. Costs are up | | |
| ▲ | OgsyedIE 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Costs aren't just up on the shocks of this year. The daily production of all diesel and jet fuel per capita has been declining month on month since 2008. The per capita part is very important to explaining the figure, don't ignore it, but if you break oil (and related products like kerogen, bitumen and NGL) into light, medium and heavy we hit peak medium oil in 2008. | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Jet fuel has more than doubled in cost just this year. That wasn't in anyone's plans. |
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| ▲ | wewewedxfgdf an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Interest rates and inflation have vastly more impact than AI. |
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| ▲ | mkotlikov 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This 100%. All the layoffs started before AI. High interest rates means businesses can't afford to take risks. Our entire economy is based on easy money from cheap debt. The tech layoffs are about being able to pay for AI whether that's paying for data centers or tokens. I expect AI use to cause an increase in output, not a decrease in employment. At least right now. In TV and Film it would translate to more content that was too expensive to film before. If your business is making movies and then suddenly the market is flooded with fast and cheap movies, then you're going to make more fast and cheap movies too! | |
| ▲ | jeffbee 10 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | That doesn't explain anything in this article. All the time series go back to 1990 when interest rates were significantly higher any way you look at them. |
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| ▲ | Lerc 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Before I dive into a relatively long article here, can someone tell me if it does, in fact, say how much is AI? |
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| ▲ | jalev an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some of these graphs don't support the hypothesis. The movie one for example shows that employment is just slightly below what it was just after the financial crisis of 2008, and shows record job loss after the covid bump which we all know resulted in massive hiring sprees in a lot of sectors followed by massive layoffs. Is the movie and movie production sector really experiencing an apocalyptic downturn where the line will reach zero, or just returning to its median? Apparently the amount of movies actually being produced has barely recovered to post 2008 levels. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187122/movie-releases-in... |
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| ▲ | talon8635 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Why should we expect the economy of 2026 (not 2020) be comparable to 2008? Am I missing something? Economy was awful i 2008 and we are currently in boom time markets, so boomy for so long that people have been saying it must be a bubble for years now. | |
| ▲ | vasco an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah but the total hours of content produced are way up. Most video content that needs to be produced and is consumed nowadays isn't movies. | | |
| ▲ | redwood 23 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That's part of the point. If anyone can create cheap garbage, flood it on socials, and get people to click see what goes viral the old attention economy is just totally disrupted |
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| ▲ | alephnerd 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > record job loss after the covid bump which we all know resulted in massive hiring sprees in a lot of sectors followed by massive layoffs. Is the movie and movie production sector really experiencing an apocalyptic downturn where the line will reach zero, or just returning to its median? The 2023 Hollywood Strike strike, the COVID lockdowns shutting down theaters, and the aggressive film production (UK, Poland, Ireland, Norway, Italy, Spain, Colombia) and VFX (Ireland, India, Colombia) subsidizes right as American states like California, Georgia, NY, and others began cutting them meant much of the American film and television industry got obliterated earlier this decade. The reality is revenue is roughly consistent, but production costs one you remove subsidies (like what most of the US and Canada did) become exhorbitant in low margin industries like entertainment. It's now cheaper to produce an "American" movie or TV show in Ireland, using British actors affecting an American accent (thank Hugh Laurie, Idris Elba, and Dominic West for that), with post and VFX done in India than it is in the US. This is something that has been reported on in the space for a decade now, but not much can be done. This article is also another example of why HNers should stick to their own lane, as most lack context or visibility into other industries. |
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| ▲ | tracerbulletx 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Very little. It's that America's tax incentives are not competitive. They fly crews to make game shows from LA to london because its cheaper to shoot a show there. There's strong momentum to change that at the moment, there's a bill that might actually get passed that will make the tax environment competitive again in the states that stack theirs on it. |
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| ▲ | arjie an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Based on the rise of short form video content, this seems like amateurs are just outcompeting professionals for eyeballs. |
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| ▲ | talon8635 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | While true, it’s almost like saying crack dealers are outcompeting Michelin chefs for appetites. They are totally different content, and one inarguably more addictive and shallow than the other But you’re right. | |
| ▲ | geophph an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not even short form. I found myself watching an hour and a half long YT video of a dude jet skiing from WA state to Alaska and can’t even hype myself up to watch a feature film. | | |
| ▲ | buzzerbetrayed 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The other night I watched a team of 4 dudes row from America to Europe. In a row boat. No sails. Makes me think of the Tom Hanks quote: > What actually happened is cooler than what could happen It’s hard to think of a fictional story that beats actually rowing across the world. |
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| ▲ | redwood 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I find it odd that this article ignores live theater when that is the natural parallel to "live shows" or "tours" for film and television. Also how much is the end of ZIRP and how much is jobs moving abroad? I'd love to see the article go a bit deeper |
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| ▲ | dodger-dog an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| How much is TikTok? |
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| ▲ | dylan604 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | More than you can afford if you have any scruples | | |
| ▲ | dodger-dog 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Scruples likely has something to do with it, but not in the way you suggest. My feed is full of dancing and singing. Seeing a dance trend go viral and with 48 hours people all over the world are posting their rendition of it is remarkable. | | |
| ▲ | Carrok 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Remarkable in what way? Sounds completely unremarkable to me. Oh wow, someone did a dance, and then someone copied it, and then someone copied it, and then someone copied it, and then.. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | How much is your soul? |
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| ▲ | tayo42 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The outsource comment was interesting. Gaming didn't come up in this article but seems similarly hit. I was recently surprised to see how much game dev work is done outside the US for American companies. Also thought the graphs around covid were interesting, there wasn't a spike up or anything it's just been consistently down. The article said we're not in a recession. I thought we were lol |
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| ▲ | gnarlouse 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Honestly: our media and film is largely pretty terrible. The arts may be worth a lament. |
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| ▲ | ViktorRay an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think some of it may be demand side. Many people spend hours browsing Tik Tok rather than watching film or television. Even long form YouTube videos are highly popular. Many folks spend time watching those rather than movies or tv. I believe Tom Hanks was speaking about this many years ago. That being said…. I remember growing up and my teachers would always emphasize the importance of reading. I’m sure it would be a great thing for humanity if everyone spent their free time reading books rather than on film or television. In such a scenario would people complain about job loss then? This could be a fruitful idea for a science fiction short story come to think of it. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Something I realized recently was that when I watch videos in any form (feature film, documentary, dramatic or comedy series, or short) I have this nagging feeling I'm wasting time. I think it's because watching is such a passive activity. When I read, I don't get that feeling. Even here on HN where it is mostly wasting time. I think this is why so much media has viewer comments. It's something to engage with and lose awareness of the passing time. | |
| ▲ | dodger-dog an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is my thinking. TikTok is very entertaining. I can’t do hours, but 30 minutes to an hour is great. Compare it to an unswipable hours long sporting event, 30 minutes looking for the right movie you quit 30 minutes in or have to pause till another day because something comes up, or tv shows with unresolved endings that leave you feeling like you are in a toxic relationship-hating the commitment but afraid of the sense of loss. | | |
| ▲ | forgotusername6 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Habitual use of shorter and shorter form content trains you to expect gratification faster and faster. There is most certainly a better reward for delaying gratification. A really good movie can leave you on a complete high or completely devastated. I'm pretty certain tiktok cannot. It's cheap quick entertainment but if you get used to that fast shallow enjoyment you can't hold on long enough for the good stuff. |
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| ▲ | beedeebeedee an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The only thing I’ve been watching lately are Soviet films on youtube. Mosfilms and Gorky films have their full catalogs on there. Sergei Bondarchuk’s films are deeply moving. Seventeen Moments from Spring is incredible as well- the Soviet answer to James Bond. For some reason it feels deeply refreshing to watch these films instead of what the US has been producing. |
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| ▲ | redwood 20 minutes ago | parent [-] | | When art offers one of the only limited pressure valves for totalitarianism out gets embued with deeper meaning I suppose? | | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | All art in the Soviet Union was state-manipulated propaganda. At least all of it that was in public venues such as theatre and television. |
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