> I still wouldn't trust AI all that much for a real task

I wonder if you might be conflating LLM/Agent with AI

Waymo is AI, I personally would happily ride one, or a Zoox. Those are quite real tasks the AIs are performing, people put their lives on the hands of these AIs

A lot of AI models every day work to provide search results, driving directions, image recognition, automatic routing and classification (eg. Fruit packaging companies use vision models to accept/reject fruit for packaging in real time - that’s the fruit we buy at the supermarket and then eat at home), and so many other things

So inadvertently, and without much choice either, you probably already rely and depend on AI on your everyday life

Is every closed loop computation system AI now? Or does it need to have a neural network?

We’ve been arguing about this for decades. I think the less controversial take is that very specifically LLMs and their agentic harnesses are AI.