| ▲ | besterman23 7 hours ago |
| This seems like a poor comparison, for any given company, benefitting from personal computing in 1987 was a significantly harder task than using AI tools in 2026 is. The first requires a fundamental shift in not only how you work but expensive and complex infrastructure changes from the company itself just to make it possible (the first Mac for example would cost about $7000 per person in today’s money and would be outdated in maybe a year or two), an office building of The latter requires asking a subscription service to do a task for you on basically any computer connected to the internet. |
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| ▲ | computomatic 7 hours ago | parent [-] |
| I don’t know about you, but for me materially useful AI costs around $10,000/mo in tokens. But it is very useful. Claude subscriptions help, but only if I come in with the expertise to build the entire system around the model and I don’t mind the whole thing grinding to a halt when my session limit is saturated. Anyone selling the system off the shelf is going to be charging API rates. Computers were cheap in comparison. |
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| ▲ | besterman23 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I can’t speak for everyone, but I would intuitively venture to guess there would be some greater than marginal productivity benefits from say, a $200/m Claude sub for each employee in many organizations outside of tech. Perhaps they’re all on the $20/m plan which is useless? | | |
| ▲ | computomatic 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | “Marginal” improvement isn’t really going to be enough. Products need to be closer to 10x better than the alternative to get traction (which can be divided across several dimensions). AI, I think, is just starting to get there. | | |
| ▲ | besterman23 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I get what you’re saying but I’m just not a fan of this type of argument. It always paints AI as this “in the future” thing which absolves any current criticisms or observations. LLMs are great and definitely make you more productive, for some reason 493/500 firms haven’t been able to figure that out even though it’s trivially easy to provide employees with frontier models and it’s also trivially easy to use frontier models. Which is why I say comparing it to personal computers in 1987 is not an apt comparison. That took redefining physical workspaces, new infrastructure, and new personnel which wasn’t easy to come by. Becoming a company that uses AI is just as easy (if not easier) as using any other SaaS. | |
| ▲ | kaffekaka 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | See sibling comment. 10x measured how? In pure coding tasks under certain conditions the speedup is huge, but seems really unclear how this would transfer to any significant speedup across the whole undertaking (project, delivery etc). |
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| ▲ | kaffekaka 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Maybe, even likely. But how do you observe this? We are in this situation at work, it feels like "sure AI is helpful" but do we actually deliver any faster? | |
| ▲ | throw765392 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Or just in enterprises where they can't have plans. |
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| ▲ | datsci_est_2015 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Holy shit. I’m spending 2 orders of magnitude less per month and still getting good value. But, I’m not an AI maximalist. If it costs 2x-3x the median household income to be an AI maximalist that definitely puts some comments on this forum into context. |
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